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Tearing Up the Script on Masculinity Media Myths and Being True to You

February 19, 2024 Jamar Season 3 Episode 2
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When was the last time you met a man who wasn't afraid to embrace his feminine side, or a woman who didn't have to think twice about her partner's bisexuality? The Medium Ghetto Podcast is back with a bang as we, your favorite candid hosts, together with a special guest, pull back the curtain on gender expression and the unseen pressures that shape our love lives. Journey with us through a frank discussion on the cultural norms that define masculinity and femininity, and the courage it takes to defy them.

Have you ever heard hushed whispers when discussing STIs or felt the weight of judgment when uttering the word 'bisexuality'? Well, we're turning up the volume and talking openly about it all. From the biases that bisexuality harbors infidelity to the critical importance of communication in relationships, our guest and we are ripping off the band-aid. We're navigating through the murky waters of gender roles in partnerships, financial stability, and how to maintain the essence of who you are while in love's tight embrace.

As we wrap up, we'll whisk you away into a spirited debate on the media's portrayal of men and its ripple effects on our perception of masculinity. Laugh and learn with us as we dissect everything from the stereotype-shattering power of a man who can sew, to the ridiculousness of rejecting hygiene in the name of manliness. We're all about celebrating individuality and acceptance, so join us for a toast to the uniqueness we each bring to the table, complete with a dash of humor and a healthy dose of reality. Cheers to being unapologetically you!

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Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, my God, what's up with y'all gang? Welcome to Medium Ghetto Podcast. Just to let you know updates on the how the show will operate this will be. This will be a bi-weekly show. Now we're going to the Medium Ghetto Podcast. It's not a bi-weekly show. We're going to be talking about cultural changes, cultural perceptions and things like that. It's going to be dope. But with that I introduce my two co-hosts, troy and Kendell. What up, what up, how y'all doing.

Speaker 2:

I'm hanging in there. I'm telling you I was talking to you this morning, you smoking, you smoking early in the morning.

Speaker 1:

I also see that what's in your cup that's ice coffee. Oh, okay, that's different. I was expecting. You know I'm from you smoking and you're drinking some liquor. You got a handy in the cup.

Speaker 3:

Hell. Nah, it is 10.45 AM right now. I'm also 31,. You know, when I was in my 20s, that'll be right up my alley still Fuck that.

Speaker 1:

I think I've seen a little glimpse of your love journey with you and Kendell.

Speaker 3:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

The love journey.

Speaker 3:

Totally a love journey.

Speaker 2:

We were on a love journey, Troy.

Speaker 1:

Totally. I gotta watch more of it, because I was like I don't need to, I don't need to see your clip and I was like, damn, I want to hear what Kendell thinks about love.

Speaker 3:

It's an interesting episode. My microphone I don't know what the fuck I got to make sure because it was like it was a little stat. It's been staticky lately but, like I don't know, nothing happened to the microphones. I had to do some, some technical shit, figure out some shit, but overall you can still hear it. It's just staticky at moments.

Speaker 1:

So you know. So this came up like it was a big subject on the internet like two weeks ago. It was the fact that certain cultures accept dating more feminine guys and some cultures look down on dating feminine guys. Of course I don't see myself as a feminine guy, I'm actually pretty masculine and sometimes I hate it because man, yeah, I mean this bitch burning my mind, my head, I mean my, my shell, just burning Mad as fuck, not expressing shit, shit, man.

Speaker 3:

But let's see.

Speaker 1:

Let's talk about, like how do different cultures perceive men with feminine traits, and how does this influence women's attraction to them? Can you give me examples of societies where such men are particularly admired, or so athletes?

Speaker 3:

I think it just depends on what would you classify as feminine. That's good. That relates to the other show that we were doing for a second that I still think we need to bring back what actually exactly these three people make can do shit, because it just depends on what you look at as feminine, like okay, so like, let's say, americans, like you know, dancing for a man sometimes, especially certain types of dances, maybe look like oh, or like they must, mother would hold up the wall, be a wallflower, then get out there and move their hips a little bit, whereas in some cultures, like you know, since I moved to Arizona, like a lot of like Latin cultures and shit, like the men will dance, they move and they body, they use it like they should, they got a fucking whole different type of rhythm that some of the ways that they would move people that I know of life from where I came from, it should be looking like it's like no, it's just dancing.

Speaker 2:

I remember very specifically somebody on this podcast I ain't gonna name no names saying that men should be working, not dancing. Great men should be working, not dancing. I ain't gonna name no names.

Speaker 1:

Somebody said that, oh shit.

Speaker 2:

It was two weeks ago it was more than that.

Speaker 3:

I think I ain't over here dancing oh shit Like two months by now.

Speaker 1:

No, but I know in like Korea and Japanese culture, for instance, they have like more. So beautiful. I guess beautiful men are more sought after, in a way, and look more attractive Because, like I'll say, like hip hop culture, you suspect.

Speaker 3:

You got a skivel tea, hell, no.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like you know it's crazy Affirmative trait could be looked at as, let's say, washing your way Like cleaning, like cleaning themselves, Literally. Affirmative trait could be emotional sensitivity, digestiveness and strong sense of personal grooming aesthetics. Yeah, I don't consider any of that like feminine stuff For me like particularly, and what.

Speaker 2:

I've seen especially in like black culture is like because things like buck breaking existed before. Anything that leans toward the gay now is just like a big no-no. It's really problematic to me because if you look at it the way people have the conversations about the stuff it's almost always like you're discrediting or disqualifying gay people from existing at all or anybody that leans in that direction, where they do dress more like symbolically or they behave more that way, and it's like oh, this is how the white man wants us to act, and it's like it really doesn't have to go that deep.

Speaker 1:

Like, people can just exist this way and it's fine.

Speaker 2:

You see those with the trans well, with black people toward the trans community a lot as well, where it's like make it that our trans are just brainwashed by like white supremacy. It's like really you don't think trans people are just like naturally occurring, because every culture on the planet pretty much has it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I didn't notice, but Native Americans had trans people.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

People with two spirits or something like that. Two spirits, yeah, two natured yeah, I never knew that. I was like what the hell's going on here?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, people act like it's fucking brand new or something Like it's some like.

Speaker 1:

I think the media just I might even talk about like a little trans to be, I'm really mainly even talking. I'm just talking about like, like, how the procession of like feminine guys out here is looked at as sassy. I think there's a lot more feminine guys out here because raised by single moms, but that's just what you. You got, your mom said yes, straight.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

It all comes from the same place the distaste for it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but it just also depends again on what you're considering feminine, because like I don't think I think more men now, like I actually just had this conversation on another show the other day about like how more men like speak up now or kind of express themselves and I was like you know, back then they just couldn't do that shit first off, because that's why your grandpa and great grandpa and a lot of had fucking mischievous because they couldn't say the shit they wanted to say to your grandma so they wouldn't go got another bitch around the corner. You know what I'm saying. Like it was like I can't express myself, I can't say shit. My fucking, my skin dries, hell, my hands fucking hurt because I can't put low show on, because that's gay Fucking like they going to fucking hell.

Speaker 2:

So they just said fucking.

Speaker 3:

So they was beating their woman's ass and they going around the corner to fucking other bitch that everybody knew about oh, that's Miss Ruby Like you know, or another nigga knew about that or that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, we got a good comment, though right now, that comment guys, from my friend Angel, and this is a really this is what I'm talking about too. This is the key and the problem is the majority of generations on a DL, a lot of men won't tell you they're bisexual and they're rivaling the choice of choosing to date them. So, to sad things, a lot of females are on a high alert and on the lookout for certain attributes, because 90% of men won't tell them and the rise of HIV is scary. You know, it's crazy about. The funny part I want us to talk about this is on high alert and look out for certain attributes, as I see, like man can't do shit.

Speaker 3:

I got a lot to say about that.

Speaker 2:

I'll let y'all go first.

Speaker 3:

I'll say real quick I think I do kind of slightly agree that I don't know about.

Speaker 3:

The majority of this generation is on the down low per se, but I do think a lot like people don't.

Speaker 3:

I think psychology needs to be taught like fucking elementary school, because most of those people who are the most angry is about it are like the most bothered by other ones who are on the down low or something like that. You don't get worked up over something that doesn't mean anything to you, like you get bothered because it's hitting the court. So it's like most of these things that's out there so angry about it or whatever the case is, they're fucking gay as hell. And it's like the problem that comes in is that there's more people pushing it off, that are actually like that behind closed doors than it is people just accepting it and being like, okay, well, yeah, this is me, um. And so I kind of do agree that it does put women in a certain spot of like needing to be, I guess, on alert, but at the same time it's like it just it's, it's I don't know, it's touchy, cuz. I think it just depends on on the situation too. But I'll drop it there and let cuz I feel like you know really has.

Speaker 2:

No, okay.

Speaker 3:

His territory a little bit yeah this.

Speaker 2:

It bothers me a lot, this comment like I hate this shit. So a man or anybody is not more likely to cheat on you because they're bisexual. The fact of the matter is, straight people are going to cheat on you just as frequently. I agree that the rise of like scds is a problem, but the problem there isn't with the fact that you might get HIV from the person because they're bi. It's that they're not telling you about their tested status. That's it. That's gonna happen with straight people too. A lot of people don't want to tell you that they're bi, even if they're monogamous, because you're gonna look at them different solely because they've had sex with somebody before if they're clean. If they're not, I don't like using cleaner like.

Speaker 2:

Yeah but if you're tested and you communicate that to your partner, that should be fine by itself. But it's like oh, you've slept with a man before, I'm not for that. Okay, that's, that's pretty, it's pretty corny. Um, because, again, they're not more likely to cheat on you with a man because they're bi. They're just as likely to cheat on you if they're straight. None of that makes any difference. It really doesn't, and I'll debate that point too. There's like any further comment.

Speaker 2:

Um, not really, I think as a wait till she, wait till she hear that that's a really good comment.

Speaker 1:

I think, um, I think guys need to be especially like because we're they don't know how, like you say, like you said Troy, and like you said Can that they don't know how to actually express themselves if they know the are bi or they figured out. You know I'm saying Let me be a guy that are also dead. As the. I guess you can say I'm the resident heterosexual guy of this podcast at the moment.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I really like your comment, troy, because that's all.

Speaker 1:

That isn't important. So I never thought about that. I know like if you really didn't care, you wouldn't act like you care. You don't care, it's your bother, cuz it hit something in you like.

Speaker 3:

What's this gay shit going on over here? And your mind like damn that they should look fun. You like, oh that gay shit, I want to be over there with that, but you can't because you haven't accepted it in yourself.

Speaker 3:

So you know you mad or you better go fuck with these gay people for no reason Like it's more so that, and I think it's because men aren't allowed the same Freedom, because I'll say this for a fact Most of the females that I know, when they get a little drunk, get a little gay. Most women I know, um yeah, they're quirby around the bitch, like a lot of women I know I've have.

Speaker 3:

Had fantasies or done things that, like, men aren't allowed that same freedom of exploring. So then it becomes like most men, like not I don't say most men, but I don't say most men. But you know, a lot of men are like frustrated there, so it's like they can't even have a moment. Because now they had that moment, my friends looking at them like you can try something one time. Because I also know someone who did try once. It was like, oh, it was cute, but that wasn't me, you know what I'm saying. But now you have that, that thing has been expressed, it's out of you. Now, you know. You know I'm saying there's nothing in you that's striking a chord, no more. Whereas men they never even get a chance to have that one second, that low, one low, quick experience to be like that was nice, but I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 2:

We also asked a question of why do people feel the need to be dl, why do they feel the need to be down?

Speaker 3:

Because society.

Speaker 2:

That's why yeah we, we know, we know the answer like oh yeah, like we know that answer, but at the end of the day, like that's exactly what it boils down to, you're gonna be like horribly fucking judgmental, like I mean a lot of people that are by aren't even going to want to date someone who Like, who was so close-minded about that kind of stuff. Um again, it's not every, let's see. Uh, Jamar, you want to read the comment.

Speaker 1:

I can't read um.

Speaker 1:

Online. This is always me in a classroom like, oh, teacher, do you want to read this? Like, oh damn, I gotta read for the class. I never said nothing about you. I know someone who has a diary from her partner sneaking with man yes, gear you shit. What I said was Is it Rob? You the choice at the end of the day, your sexual preference. If you choose, it's not they a bisexual person, that's your business. The same way, choose not to date bbw's or out of their race. Omar Johnson, that's crazy. I never said nothing about cheating, but bi sexually is number one. Wait, hiv is spread. It's hard to get it from a woman to a man. Everyone is allowed to have their preference. I'm thinking she said there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So again, the problem there isn't that you're dating a bisexual person, you're dating someone who is sexually irresponsible and doesn't test themselves or doesn't tell you about their test results.

Speaker 2:

Um, that's, that's the issue. It's not oh, I don't want to date bi people like it's just biphobia. It's like a branch of homophobia. You feel as though this statistic makes it more likely that your partner is going to do this or that, so you attach that generalization to them and then judge them based on that. It all comes from the same place, it's the exact same thing. You can have the preference. It doesn't make you any less trash of a person.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think. I think the main route is like irresponsibility, um, set your responsibility. I've seen a lot of, right now, like you know what. I've been hearing a lot, though, even with, like, even with the woman. It's just like yo. You know Someone I think like four people told me is like yo. If you don't catch a std man, you just you ain't really out here like that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, that makes, yes, that makes sense.

Speaker 1:

Yo, so like that's like a badge of honor.

Speaker 3:

Hey, I got my first st, oh my boy, I got my worms.

Speaker 2:

Finally got my worms.

Speaker 1:

Or like her epidemic too. Right now, I think like that one that's, people are like oh well, I'm still, you know, I still have a good sex life.

Speaker 3:

I mean, you can still have a good sex life if you have, you know, some any time. It's just a matter of protecting yourself from being Uh transparent with the people that you're fucking around with. Like I just fuck somebody and then like not say hey, also just let you know. Like it's about communication and being responsible. That's really what it is for me.

Speaker 2:

I don't know how. God, I do not understand how people like get pregnant so easily. That shit is crazy to me. I have no idea how. I accident bro Troy, why has no one ever gotten pregnant sleep with you?

Speaker 3:

Oh, I mean, yeah, you know, because I don't fuck bitches Asshole. So you know, life can bet you fast, but not fast like that for me.

Speaker 1:

I Right, the kids. I rather the child than scd, but uh, what was?

Speaker 3:

it Well, yeah, I'm sure most people.

Speaker 2:

Oh, thank god, I only got age. She's not pregnant.

Speaker 1:

No, but I think like um, but I like angels point, though it was the fact that, like when you because these men are not saying it, are saying, aren't saying yo, I like dudes are not open or giving them a choice. That's why they're on high alert and it's kind of creating this. But also what is there to be on high alert about what is like the like.

Speaker 3:

I guess I look at your anything doesn't change anything.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I'm more likely to get AIDS or HIV. Well, if they don't get tested and don't communicate the results to you? Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1:

Like I do, wearing a henley.

Speaker 2:

I love my family shirts, bro. I don't think it's a feminine trait at all, that's. What I don't understand is like well, attach sexual auditions.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that's the weirdest thing Regular-ass quality but, like I'll say, like power dynamics, like I was reading the book called the Art of the Superior man and it talks about how a lot of relationships don't understand power dynamics. When you're a masculine woman, just easier to date a feminine man. When you're a masculine man, you date a feminine woman, and vice versa. And if you're neutral that's the third dynamic you can date someone who's more neutral in the balance. You know what I mean and I think, because everyone wants this, the media says you need this masculine man or this person in certain cultures, that certain culture is shopping for that type of dude Because you know they're supposed to be straight. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

I'm not gonna lie this just sounds like gender astrology to me.

Speaker 1:

Gender astrology.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's all this sounds like. Like you try to use the like spectrum of masculinity and femininity to like determine the success rate of relationships. When, like, the conflict is the same.

Speaker 1:

I think, like the power dynamics is, you can have two mother-lovers being masculine as hell together.

Speaker 3:

Sure you can. I mean you can. It's just a matter of that's the thing we are. So you get to fuck out people's business.

Speaker 1:

Anything type of relationship can work To be honest, they're not even looking for masculine men. They're looking. They want drug dealers.

Speaker 3:

I mean, there's that too. I'm gonna fucking tell my master. But really they just want a gun-totem fucking drug dealer that's bigger than that's gonna drop him off a stack every week. Like that's really what some of them is talking about.

Speaker 1:

No, I don't get about it though. Like these girls be like they be with the drug dealer, but they won't even stay with the drug dealer if the drug go to jail Right.

Speaker 2:

Of course, because you were a bad drug dealer. If you get your ass caught, you gonna stay with a businessman who's a bad businessman and can't keep an LLC together.

Speaker 1:

I mean.

Speaker 3:

At least if you're with him for the business part anyway.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, oh. I love that he owns a business. That's like the biggest thing I'm attracted to.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, he has four companies that are going under.

Speaker 3:

Now I got another one. So let's say, a nigga is like a drug dealer who got who's helping the guns, who could drop you off a stack once a week. But he a little feminine Nigga, agree his nails done, he makes sure he got his clear polish on twice a week. You know what I'm saying? He get his face, he get his all his shit. Is it a problem there? Because he still got his guns. He still jealous of the. He got his stacks whenever you need it. How about that? Like Y'all let in, y'all let in, y'all let in.

Speaker 1:

Y'all let in feminine drug dealers hit.

Speaker 3:

I bet you a nice amount of women would. They might not, they probably not gonna say they fuck around with him because my focus probably around the hood talking to him, Shit about that. They go that. They go that nigga Soft meat, Like you know what I'm saying. Like soft meat and she's like well, I'll fuck with that nigga to behind closed doors. Hey, baby, Like yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like other cultures, I grew up, I went to church, and you know, church with Koreans, church with white people and, like you know, I'm from the hood, so, like all the ignorant stereotypes and everything is in me, you know what I mean. So I remember one time I walked in my boy's dance crib and like I met his dad and me and Dan, both at a teenage age, admitted, I swear to God, if my dad wasn't in church and married to my mom, I would think he's a sex offender, because my man was a sex offender, or like a gentle.

Speaker 3:

Oh shit.

Speaker 1:

He was all gentle and soft-voiced and he he just doesn't seem like he was interested in a woman.

Speaker 2:

Why is that sex offender vibes?

Speaker 3:

Right, I'm like yeah, where's the?

Speaker 2:

He's all soft-voiced.

Speaker 1:

He's like, hey, how's it going? You talk like, yeah, you talk like he's on ecstasy all the time. Okay, I just have a little pervert vibe. It's a little pervert but he has a wife. He has like five kids and I'm like that's crazy. My Korean friend's dad was like kind of a similar way very soft guys, but Some people might not be soft, you might just be calm.

Speaker 3:

Because then I just made me think about too. I have this a friend of mine whose husband, his voice is a little higher and some people will be like that's just naturally his speaking voice. Hey, yeah, let's go to the store. You know, I'm saying like it's, it's, it's. Some people will look at that and be like, oh, that nigga, it's something. You know what I'm saying, but it's like it's literally just his voice. So unfortunately everybody ain't got the very white. Yeah, baby, yeah, everybody. Hey, yeah, we about to go to the store. And I got to go to the grocery store today. Baby, I love you. You know like how well it is, it's a cabellum game, right, that nigga voice. Yeah, I was going to go to that.

Speaker 3:

You know, like that shit is somebody fucking it's not like a fucking witch from the 1600s or something Like it's. I just think, like I was saying, people need to get the fuck out of people's business. Whatever work for people, work for people. If it don't work for you, then that's fine, but also look at yourself. If you're really bothered, why are you bothered? Because nothing that you don't care about should be bothering you.

Speaker 2:

Wait, let the comment. I'm going to draw the line at the color and designs and what.

Speaker 3:

I mean I get that, I get that.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what it means in clothing or what.

Speaker 3:

Like red and oh yeah, what about black? What if they paint their nails black? Oh, that means the guy Fucking raise on your ass.

Speaker 2:

This is what Troy thinks of white people. For any of our white people.

Speaker 3:

Hey, I didn't say it. Uh huh.

Speaker 2:

Got it.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, that too high, because why fuck is like oh yeah, if you know what's really coming in?

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

I will never get them fucking.

Speaker 2:

Neon plans ever.

Speaker 1:

If you listen to my father here, if you listen to the same thing, you'll say you feminine man.

Speaker 3:

No, I think they start really looking at it when you like five, five or less. It's like oh no, it's six foot, probably five six. Well, no, I mean yeah, of course.

Speaker 2:

Most women don't know the difference between five, 10 and six. Most do not.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, literally that's what I'm about to say. So the first like after like five, nine to six foot is like all right. Under that it starts to be like oh no, oh no. I don't care, but you know I get it yeah.

Speaker 1:

And.

Speaker 2:

No, that's. I was literally just asking the question because I Thought coloring designs might have been referring to the clothing or hair.

Speaker 1:

You can't be dressed like a Easter basket, and they oh.

Speaker 2:

Like so much of it just sounds like people want to date miserable.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, just that's what literally sounds like people that are just miserable and so confined to Very specific, I don't want to say roles, but I guess maybe that's the idea that they don't even let themselves live outside of the box and be human To experience the full fucking spectrum of humanity. Like we have a fucking a million emotions and fucking we're like a whole fucking galaxy under ourself and most people just lock they self up and put they self are. It's like bitch. You are planets. You are literally just planets in you fucking.

Speaker 1:

You know That'd be crazy as shit you like, oh yellow shirt niggas if they can walk in with all pink tracksuit.

Speaker 2:

I know a couple women like yeah, I'll be back to take pink shirts again. I'm glad.

Speaker 3:

I mean, you know I've got the right drip, you know it look right.

Speaker 1:

But but how does media Represents such as movies, tv shows and music and pack can impact woman's perception of men with their men traits?

Speaker 3:

I Don't know because I mean there's not a lot of feminine straight men on TV. The idea of a straight man on TV is like man oh yeah, you know. It's like there's different. There's like the like four or five, like little I guess, tropes of men. There's like the manly man, there's the nerdy man, there's the like artsy kind of dude, and then there's this, the gay guy.

Speaker 3:

It's like the four types of like men you get on TV. So it's not like a lot of room to even See, I guess and I hate the word feminine because it still depends on what you're talking about but like feminine men on TV that are straight, because every time you see a feminine man he's gay, or just like you know, the artsy guy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean I feel about the same. I don't. I mean I guess it Fuck. We can't even say that media doesn't have impact on what people find attractive because, like, yeah, every straight guy from Any year before the starting in the 2000s, we show them like she go, or like black fire from Teen Titans, when my total drama Island, it's just like, oh yeah, these are the reason I'm obsessed with gospel, like these women are the reason. So I mean I guess it does have like some Impact, but I don't think it's so great or so drastic. That is something that's even I would never call it.

Speaker 1:

Concerning, yeah, I Mean with this thumb pull up a picture that kind of set up a uproar like months ago.

Speaker 3:

That's it. Look good that it was killing it. Oh, they can't pull it off, we're gonna gay though. I mean yes, yes I, but like that's better you should. Because first off, the lay across thing one fuck exactly. Take grand pros and granddaddies. One doing that shit Y'all think young grand pros is constantly motherfucking laid, don't play second off. Right right, it slapped up fucking grandma because dinner wasn't ready by the time he got home. And now he's sitting there with his legs cross. You know what?

Speaker 1:

But with that being, I mean I don't feel any crazy way about that. I think it's a nice.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean I can't imagine he bought somewhere. It's. That's the point too. Like we are, we get too deep into shit. It's kind of editorial support or shoot, put on shit for the for the shoot. It's not like he bought it. I'm gonna put that shit on to the club.

Speaker 1:

You know I'm saying like my thing is it's more so all things like feminine like, but let's say Alert like for like for men with darker tones, having lighter colors on you just show more of your features off. You see, you've seen his ebby is a. I guess he stays blackness more in all pink. In that picture it stood out more. This is some of the rings I see they cause such things are consume all sorts of definitely petty as fuck. I see something when someone posted on a man eating by himself with us and I'm like what some of the things this generation says is reaching. It's a lot of Kelly Bundy females influencing the younger generations. They call them sus, but rapping about selling their holes. I mean, I got money For the right wow, have you seen the video?

Speaker 2:

There's like a podcast where two women were Ripping on that we call Martin Luther King Jr Great because he cheated on his wife and it's like, because he cheated on his wife, all of his other like accomplishments are moot.

Speaker 1:

I want my color. I mean, we all went our Coretta.

Speaker 3:

This is so dumb, that's I'm gonna call it.

Speaker 2:

Jonathan majors day instead of Martin Luther King day.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, I called it that.

Speaker 2:

You're sure to post it. Get out of here.

Speaker 1:

Initially seen Simon and due to color scheme. But I would say that's. I would say that it's gay.

Speaker 2:

But that's the thing, though, is the outfit doesn't tell you who he's trying to fuck.

Speaker 3:

Yeah right, like it's like. It's not like he's in the outfit. Hey, look at this photo shoot with a thing on his lap. Like you know, I'm saying it's like it's him by himself in a color.

Speaker 2:

Did you see women's general reactions to that shit? They were Almost a.

Speaker 1:

It's the fish, it's the his face. For me it says his face is the other. Then he just got the drip. It's the fish, the fish.

Speaker 2:

So much trouble reading that my boy I did.

Speaker 1:

It was horrible. I personally always took these as those as jokes. But people would do that, take them too far. You make those affected internalized things. So you know spell check is running everybody's life. You got a spell check now affect the link?

Speaker 3:

No, but I give what you mean of just like the, the rent, like how we were saying, like the man can't do shit show, like you Know, like some of those things are so fucking wild. It's like you know you don't really mean that, right. Like, yeah, it's like girl, he put on lotion that's us watch out are like you know, the whole thing. I still think this one is the biggest one that has always should be out. The moment I found out about it I was like yo, this is crazy of like straightening not really wiping their own ass for real or washing them because you know that's an ass and they don't want to get to in there. Yeah, no, no one else is in the bathroom, right, it's not like a man who just comes in the bathroom. Open up them, cheeks, bro. Like you.

Speaker 3:

It's, it's you. But I've heard like horror stories of women being like you know of yeah, just, yeah, just some bullshit, and it's just like that's just kind of wild that niggas are so in this square of masculinity that they can't even properly wipe their own ass. No one else came in the bathroom. I promise, I swear to God, no one is gonna come in the bathroom. Oh, that it's like you know, it's okay. It's okay, just wipe it.

Speaker 2:

I keep like I keep baby wipes in my bathroom because it's just cleaner than just using toilet paper. Is that sauce.

Speaker 1:

I did it, sis bro.

Speaker 2:

Bro, you got a hairy ass and you only use toilet paper. I'm sorry you need to take a shower, like if you only wipe your ass, a toilet paper you still stink.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah you got a good. Yeah, I like that angel on the on the ones. And twos again. Know the girl who left her husband because he was too open. I think that's the biggest problem with the black milk in me. They're not allowed to open up and have feelings. I think that is what also attributes the suicide rate. Having to internal their emotions isn't healthy. We know why these men killing each other and these women they're holding in so much. I won't lie.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a great point, Angel, and that's honestly why I'm still fucking single, because I can't tell my feelings at all. My folks look at me stranger shit. Well, this I feel about this. I don't Forget to tell us the ratio.

Speaker 3:

But that's true. That's cuz that's why we used to have like, I think what, that's why, like, physical abuse was more of a thing back Then. Cuz there's one more anger, like fucking, that was more commonplace. To beat your wife like that was just.

Speaker 1:

The dad's, who were.

Speaker 3:

Shit like that. Yeah, it was like. Well, yes, I'm going home to slap my bitch up. Like you know, it was like that was more socially fun.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, that's like a techno song.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's like a techno house type song, but yes, but you know like.

Speaker 1:

I.

Speaker 2:

Is it my bitch up turn my picture.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, yeah, snap my bitch.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but so now we got man trying to be less of that. Like you know, I'm saying the physical abuse isn't, as it still happens, completely, totally fuck happens, but it's way less commonplace than it used to be, because men are now more in a place of expressing itself. But now there's more men expressing itself and people are looking like. So, yeah, well, yeah, I just mean.

Speaker 2:

I'm like over sharing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

You're like over sharing, like what will be over sharing.

Speaker 2:

Um, I don't know. You're on a fucking first date and then you're making it very clear. My mother has never, been there for you and you're just dumping everything you've ever experienced on the who shows you like emotional interest. Like that shit is like wait, slow down.

Speaker 1:

My mother never been there for me. But I can't, I mean Because it's the biggest thing is like for me.

Speaker 2:

For me, for my personal experience, I wasn't super open with my mom when I was even younger Because my dad wasn't around and kids would tease me for being a mama's boy. So I shot that relationship out super fucking early in life and from that. I mean.

Speaker 3:

It's the same as that is girls. Yes, the person that's gonna be like right in your corner period as a parent, because they should be.

Speaker 1:

But when does it?

Speaker 3:

When they're too involved in your relationship, when they, when they feel like they have an inside like is, at the end of the day, once you do decide to be with somebody, especially if it's going to you know, the marriage ride or gets deeper. That's, that person has like a bit of a precedence over your parent at that point, I mean not like fucking mom and daddy, you know I'm saying, but it's like.

Speaker 1:

That, when they are, here's not thing is when they get involved too much. That's what I think certain moms, I think the healthy relationship and mom has a really good outlook. I think moms could protect their sons more from some of these dating, some of these women, because there's a lot of.

Speaker 2:

I don't think it's your mom's gonna need to protect you, especially when you're in your game, like they understand.

Speaker 1:

Like when you first date woman, you don't know the tricks of the trade, you don't know. You know if you get played or not. You just getting fucking played. You know saying Like, how can a woman like, how can, how can like your mom picture on game and shit that actually protects you from making these huge mistakes that affects your whole life. You got people. You got NBA players. Well, they're moms in any corner getting porn stars pregnant. I was getting managers.

Speaker 1:

I said like Dollars because a woman trapped them. But be honest, he probably seen all the rear flags. His mom probably knows all the rear flashes. Mom probably even knows the dark Psychology what women want to get that money up.

Speaker 2:

You know you understand, like you just run a. Dark psychology of women.

Speaker 1:

There it is, man, let's try to use it. Men got the same thing they got dark.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, don't let, don't, let, don't fuck on with a smart nigga who ain't shit. Oh, that's a smart nigga who I mean next time oh. Wow, oh no, that's. That's a tough one. You might not survive that.

Speaker 1:

Oh. I See what she said Angel said this. Next time agree, but it's so many followers that partly the problem. We are an age of awakening and hopefully we awaken more people, but these females don't have no positive influences. These motherfuckers can read, don't want to read, can't even write in a in curse of that. So true, we don't teach curse of the mores in the world.

Speaker 1:

That's a person was off the man because they value them by a dollar, when they don't realize when you value a person by a amount, that's the value added to yourself. I didn't understand everything by kind of get the emotion into what just happened.

Speaker 2:

I think she meant to say can't read.

Speaker 3:

Perseves is also very fancy. Yeah, it looks amazing because most motherfuckers manuscript is ass. Most people don't know how to fucking write, so Maybe, maybe, try cursive. Curse of looks fancy, but I'll try.

Speaker 1:

No, but I think that's a big dilemma, though I agree with that. Yeah, oh, this next one your mom's, your first exposure. And we're just a mother or family affects how men approach relationships with women. They date Singles for women and their fathers. Yeah, I think, dan.

Speaker 3:

Yes, absolutely right, that's your first example yeah, that's your first example of you know the opposite sex or whatever. So depending on how they treat you, depending on how you see them treat your mom or dad, a Lot of times that starts to affect your own love life. And if you don't take the second to like check in with that, you might be doing some fucked up shit, passing down some more fucked up shit, and that's what happens in person. I think so often with us is like such a black people we pass and we don't Take the time to check in and be like damn that shit that I saw growing up with some bullshit. I was toxic. I need to make sure I don't have that like we just keep going through the motions and passing it down to the next generation.

Speaker 1:

Mmm-hmm.

Speaker 3:

Cuz I be damn, I'm not passing on the shit to my grandstand apartment. I'm gonna have kids, but nephew's nieces, guy kids are that shit. But either way, I'm not gonna pass down that shit that I. That was passed on to me. You know, I'm here. The shit that I've seen is like no, y'all gotta get, so y'all gonna get something else, because this is gonna stop with me.

Speaker 1:

Stop it with you, and Exactly that's a game that.

Speaker 1:

I don't come real quick, troy. Your mom is your first exposed to a woman. I feel like a man's relation with his mother for family affects how men approach relationship with women. They date saying goals for a woman and their fathers. I Think it really does too. It it normalizes the right thing because you, if you like, grew up in a toxic relationship for whole life. You're normalized to see in toxic relationships, so you get in these toxic relationships. It just seems normal. But if you seem like a healthier relationship or what you perceive to be like, a healthier Relationship with boundaries and stuff and respect, when you get to a toxic relationship you'd be like riff, like bitch, reflect yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's easier to notice it because I don't know. I know what, what this should look like, and this don't look like that.

Speaker 1:

These men will buy you stuff and boom, you think he loves you but yet they don't realize. These men will buy them a $500 bag and they think they love them but they won't invest in them. You allow a man to cheat on you because you, he buys you stuff. Then he will leave you for a woman worth investing. They buy you a three on that bet dollar bag, but the woman that's worth investing. They buy them a $300,000 house females don't even realize. Some city girls telling them to the shirt was it sets the bar low, get flew out and get a bag. No, sis, you know that's a dumb, birkenbag is like Bags, a couple racks. But honestly, if a guy can buy a Birkenbag, why didn't you put that on your house down payment?

Speaker 3:

First, which is the war houses I.

Speaker 1:

Was thinking about that. I'm here. I was dating Two girls home ownership.

Speaker 1:

Like Birkenbag. It's like, yeah, I can't wait to give me a Birkenbag. I'm gonna save love. These bitches live. So I got saved one. We just want to still live with the moms and shit, and that's my thing. Yeah, they still with their moms. That priorities in that stuff. They just do what sounds cool. And earning a Birkenbag is one of your biggest achievements, which is crazy. But if a man can give you a Birkenbag, he helped you achieve something big, so he loved see, just a high ball.

Speaker 3:

This is also a Cultural thing too because, like with the whole when you mentioned, like women staying with their moms and some closures, they stay like the son's in the daughters.

Speaker 3:

Whoever, they stay with their family until they are at the actual point of being able to fucking move out and actually go get their own house. So, like we look at that, she do like oh you, 18, 19, get the fuck out. They be staying with their parents until like 28 and then, like now, they're at a place that they can go get their fucking house.

Speaker 2:

Hey, I'm out like I could see.

Speaker 1:

I see the benefit of it. But, like most of time, these people who do stay with their parents, they have a financial plan. These people don't have an ounce of money left in their bank account every week. They spend, spend, spend. No plan to leave. That's the biggest. That's the big difference too, like, also, like as a guy, if we have, if we, if we as a guy, if we live with our mom or we live with roommates is, look, we don't actually have her on the spot. It looks like I mean, yeah, it really does come down to that, you don't really have like your own spot.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like it's okay not to have your own spot, is the thing Like why would I pick myself in a financial risk more of a financial risk than I need to by getting my own spot? It's called leverage, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, great, her comment too. Yeah, they would literally stay with their parents so they can buy a house until they get married or until they graduate. And then they say, all right, now I'm out, like I think we're the only coach that really be ready to kick our kids the fuck out at, like the moment they graduate.

Speaker 2:

My mom is an old white lady. I was like it might be more feasible for me to come back home because, like, it'll just be easier for me to save for a car and shit and get like another car and she was like no, I enjoy living by myself. Now I'm like damn mom.

Speaker 3:

She said no, my mom is gonna have a life too.

Speaker 2:

But that's the thing, is that she, I don't think she's gonna end up like she's 70 years old, she's not really like running around looking to date people. Now she got two open rooms in her crib.

Speaker 1:

So when I reached out to ask.

Speaker 2:

I was like I figured those two open rooms. I could use at least one of them. But that just wasn't the conversation she wanted to have.

Speaker 3:

Mom, we gotta have a life too. No, I can't go back.

Speaker 1:

Now if I think like I think, the right route if you do go to your mom's, back to your mom's house. If I had an appropriate home to go back to my mom's crib, I would do it if the environment was right. And this is what I mean. Like, for instance, I would do it if I could save up money. I was able to, like, save up a couple. Like all right, let's say your rent and all the main bills you pay in the house is close to like $1,000. Let's say it's just 500, let's say 500. That's five. With a six grand a year you'll be saving at your mom's crib while even trying.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Shit I mean I'd say that I appreciate the fact that I could. I do still have the ability to Like my mom's, to be like hey, you want to come back home, you want to like. Anytime I go back to Detroit, you think about moving back. You can stay here a little bit if you need to. I'm like, nah, I'm gone. But with the bit of what Kenel just said, it makes me feel a little bit more appreciative that I do have the ability to go back home if I needed to.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Because, I'm a friend of mine. I think that's a good part.

Speaker 1:

Like it will feel good. I'm jealous of y'all man, yeah, but I can't go back.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean, that's effectively what I said.

Speaker 2:

Like I'm, not able to do that.

Speaker 1:

Me. Well, we're jealous of Troy's, troy's for you, but I just think that delves into an even deeper conversation that includes men giving too much. I also avoid making generalizations, but what Angel said is valid, cause it does happen. Yeah, I think men give too much, like we got to have boundaries. I was talking to some people like men give way too much and then we have nothing to the show for. You know what I mean. But let's me go south. What do you have to do to show for it? Like, what are you investing in yourself, bro? You really are spending your life paying bills and pressing women, giving money to ladies and like you're putting yourself on the back end, they're gonna. At the end of the day, they're saving money because you're buying their meals, you're buying their clothes, right, how? Who was gonna look out for you when you're down? They don't have the financial ability to look out for you when you're down. They gonna leave when you're down. So you need to set yourself up. I mean, I don't want to exactly say that.

Speaker 3:

That sounds slightly bitter, but I get what you're saying, but I think it's more so. You got to feel we keep looking for other people to fill up our cup. You fill up your cup first.

Speaker 1:

That's what I mean. Like in that day, like.

Speaker 3:

It's like if you're not taking care of yourself, you're not filling up your cup, but you're constantly pouring out. At some point, yeah, you're gonna run empty. If I can come, can't stay full of water while you're still pouring out water. So it's like what are you doing for yourself? I think we just lack that sense of self to where we know what to do to refill ourselves.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly, it might be something spiritual.

Speaker 3:

It might be something artistic, it might be something. You know what I'm saying. There's something that you can do to refill your cup, but some of the people are just running through life without stopping and being like all right, wait, I'm running low. What the fuck do I need right now? For me, troy, did you just say what I said? But smarter, possibly that could be a thing.

Speaker 2:

But no.

Speaker 3:

I'm not even just a man. I think women too like this in life. We have to like find what we just got to fill up our cup, and this like goes back to minding your fucking business. Everything starts with you. Once you, once you deal with you, the everything else comes is not gonna. I don't say it comes easy, but you don't say that's the term. Everything else is a bit easier because yeah, once you get your self-prime everything else is a lot easier.

Speaker 1:

Like, imagine if you got your finances right to the point where like you aren't you are literally financially stable. Some, some shit hits your financial shit. It don't rock, you just like, oh, that's just a little turbulent.

Speaker 3:

You know what I mean. I don't even mean like yes, but I don't even mean physically. I mean literally non-physically, in the sense of I'm okay, I can handle what life comes, what comes to me in life, because I know how to handle it, Because I know what to do to be able to handle it. Not because you can have a fucking million dollars today, but tomorrow you can lose it all, you don't say or tomorrow you can become a millionaire.

Speaker 3:

Today you might not have a shit. Negative three dollars a year account Like 24 hours can change fucking everything. So it's just more so about becoming in a place of being able to assess or handle what life gives you without losing yourself, and being able to refill yourself so that again it becomes easier.

Speaker 1:

I like that because it's that, that ability to be truly independent, because, like, if you can be independent financially but you can be co-dependent mentally and spiritually, all that good stuff like shit man, I might be like financially independent but I might go to strip clubs to feel love.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah there's like 15 songs about not doing that Wrong place my boy.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, oh yeah. So I said what was her experience? She said yes, I know I overheard been on Section 8, dated a drug dealer. He loved them so much he bought them stuff and left that they asked in Section 8 when he decided he wanted better. Good job.

Speaker 3:

King, that sounds about right. Good job King.

Speaker 1:

Wow, I hate seeing dudes do that like respect yourselves and set boundaries. You're right, because everybody be setting unrealistic standards. Y'all want what Cardi B Offset, have he buy her cars, but y'all don't bring shit Cardi bring to the table. Let's be realistic. You don't, absolutely not. You absolutely do not bring anything that Cardi B brings to the table, and it's not even just finances. She just got her own shit. She don't need Offset. So she actually finds a way to appreciate Offset. You know what I mean. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

She'll eat this there. All right, that actually goes back to the career of Scott shit, because it was like I need my word. I'm okay, son. I think the third best yeah, the third or whatever he was saying like my mom was more than just his wife, and that's really what it is about being a whole fucking people. Cardi B is a whole person. She don't need them. I find what she wants a person. People aren't whole these days, but like oh yeah, that is so true.

Speaker 1:

Like you are, you can easily like be overshadowed by somebody, especially your man, and then you will start to question your identity eventually and you will start to reset that nigga, because how you don't have a personality, I've been in this literally.

Speaker 1:

I legit was like you've ever been in a situation where you date somebody and you meet their friends and they introduce they knew they knew this person longer than they knew you and they introduce you as dumb as they'd be like oh, that's Jamar's, oh, britt's Jamar's girlfriend, or Jerry's Jamar's friend, or Troy, or Jerry's Jamar, sorry, jerry's Troy's boyfriend, or something like that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:

I go down to you like they knew you first.

Speaker 3:

That's the chance that person has no personality and they literally just believe it, like I said, and that because I get you hit it like right on the nail, I'm reading Michelle Obama becoming right and she was talking about how being with Barack made her realize so many of the things that she was doing. Like she didn't. Like she didn't know who she was basically at some point. So she had to kind of figure herself out because she didn't. She was starting to present him for him, having so much purpose and knowing who he was and being. You know I'm saying this person who didn't have questions about his identity. You know I'm saying like she had all these questions and so she was like you know, she realized she was presenting him for that and she had to become her own person to handle the relationship. And that's what it is Like.

Speaker 3:

Coretta Scott was Coretta Scott without him. She didn't need him to become Coretta Scott, she was Coretta Scott. And that's what. Like we have to accept being whole fucking people On our own before we introduce a whole another person into our life. You know, I'm saying like if you're with somebody because I want to know, I'll say this you won't know if you're with somebody because you want to be with them or because you're feeling avoid. I see what you're saying so, he fell in the void he will never have it.

Speaker 1:

You won't have your identity. I'll see what you're saying. So if you're feeling a void, you will never have it. You won't have your identity. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 3:

I mean, yeah, you won't have that and you'll always blame them or project that onto them when they have one.

Speaker 1:

I see what you're saying, because you gotta think about it, like you could easily be over shadow if you're, your significant other was a president. Shit. Look at us, simone bow.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

What's the name? Simone, bow husband.

Speaker 3:

That.

Speaker 2:

Are you intentionally making the point I Said. Were you intending to make that point?

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's so petty yo Since the down in time and have been raised to revive her to family. But that narrative is dated and it was expectation because woman couldn't work. Now we can all get jobs. It should be more of a even plan feel for financial things. I agree. I really do agree To a point like I'm okay with a woman, like go on 50, 50 at the end of the day.

Speaker 1:

Like me, as a man I do want to provide because I've been raised in that situation when I'm okay with paying like 80 to 90 to almost 100% of the bills. But I have to have faith and if I'm paying I'll be quite honest, guys.

Speaker 3:

I'll tell you one day I can't do what you can 80 to.

Speaker 1:

I'm paying 80 to 100% of the bills. I'm getting pre enough. Okay, if I'm having the ability, if I have that much ability to do the double like half double the income of you, and you know I mean just be the main provider, I'll be at a prenup because at the end of the day you got to protect yourself, you know, I mean.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean I don't really disagree.

Speaker 3:

But like I like this next comment though but we're equally yoked.

Speaker 1:

If we're equally yoked, I'm okay with doing like the 5050. I might not even get a freedom, because you know I want your money too. I'm doing.

Speaker 3:

The part where she say we want the man to provide but we don't want to put up with what our grandmothers did. I Think that one is very interesting Because also, a lot of women used to lose themselves. They didn't know who they were With. Their man, went home, like we see.

Speaker 3:

I had a conversation about someone who's mom you know, her Dad, his hat past or whatever. It's been a few years and the mom, like she doesn't like eat until a certain time of day. She said well, you know, I just I used to didn't eat until you know 4 pm, until he got homework. Anyway, you need all day. I said, your, your digestive system didn't work as like, because personally I'm not about to wait for you all fucking day. I might give you about an hour if we got, like you know, some food plans, I'm gonna fucking eat Because I need to, because that's what I biologically need to do for my body. So it's like so often our grandmothers and great-grandmothers, they didn't exist Outside of grandpa or papa. You know, I'm saying they didn't have. So it's like now women have the opportunity to exist and men have the opportunity to express themselves, but there's this weird divide of not knowing how to handle that. Yet Hmm.

Speaker 3:

Like grandma did not fucking exist outside of cooking grandpa's plate, ironed his clothes and taken care of the kids in the house. I mean, she's probably the sweetest woman in the world, the nicest, most lovely woman, but I bet you she didn't know how to spell her fucking name or like how to fucking write a check, or like. You know what I'm saying. This is all kind of like normal shit.

Speaker 2:

And of course it was not even any false of their own either.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, no, no, of course not.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think like I love. I love me a woman with the identity, though I thought about one with their own identity.

Speaker 3:

A man or a woman with identity is more interesting Because it's like, oh, you're a person. I want to get to know this person. I Simple. Mpc. Hey, I mean, I know personally, I don't.

Speaker 2:

I can fuck around with it. Pc right quick, why not?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, nah, but I think these are all great, really, really, really really great points here. Man, um, I think, uh many a time I wouldn't. I wouldn't accept the ass whooping either if I was a woman. I'm just saying like you can get asked well for not having a dinner, don't why I want to get the ass whoops nowadays, right, I don't think it's a bitch fight back.

Speaker 3:

I'm just saying also nowadays women fight back. Granted it should have to, but I would imagine more women fight back now than back then.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Shit, I remember, uh, I first.

Speaker 3:

I think I'm about to run you over with my car.

Speaker 1:

I was uh, an adult from David Goggins book. You, uh, you cannot hurt me, or what was it? You can't hurt me. Yeah, you can't hurt me talking about his, his childhood and, um, how his mom was abused and how his mom was beaten Bloody senseless, even though his, his dad was. At that time you were only making like a hundred so weeks, but his dad wasn't gonna step down.

Speaker 2:

That was abusive. Or was it his like actual dad?

Speaker 1:

It was actual dad, his stepdad, that was going to be a step first step. That got murdered. But uh, he's like this is shitty. It's crazy life, but pretty much the plant was um, yeah, his mom got beaten bloody, the kids got beaten bloody to try to call the cops. And what happened was we try to call the cops, the cops laugh at her and he from a say well, this woman.

Speaker 1:

Just this woman's just spoiled. She's the one to meet, she's supposed to have everything. I give it as beautiful house. I got her beat. I got her his beautiful car. She just wants to get you know. I mean. So it's crazy like the woman literally couldn't even call the cops back then.

Speaker 3:

You know, shit, barely, I'm gonna. I mean, I kind of went through some of this um growing up or whatever, and I will say like whenever I do get a really big official platform, I do want to work with something. And domestic abuse, because the way the police treat it, it is, it's a, it almost doesn't fucking matter. You have to be literally or your death bed for them to kind of want to do something about it. Yeah, outside of that, it's like, oh well, he lives here, or you know, I'm saying like shit, like that, and it's like having Seen it up close and personal, that shit, especially if there's children involved, and it's, it's a problem, it's a big problem.

Speaker 1:

He was talking about, like the, the mindset of seeing all that fucked them up to the point where, like he, he had detachment from life because he never knew when he was gonna be beaten to death. Um, all the trauma for the rest of his life.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1:

Well, I have to say, is we can all help each other pay our bills, so we don't get our ass. Well, it's okay to date a more feminine man If you're into that, I think just be whole.

Speaker 3:

Huh, just be whole. Just be a whole fucking person. That doesn't even matter, just be whole.

Speaker 1:

You just be a whole person. That's what we get into it. Don't let the media influence you. Don't let your your uh culture perception influence you and who you date. Just do you. And just because a man know how to sew doesn't mean he like getting the whole.

Speaker 3:

Okay, wow, love it.

Speaker 2:

Oh word.

Speaker 3:

So put that on the shirt. Put that on the shirt.

Speaker 2:

Merch Knows how to sew, but still getting the hose.

Speaker 1:

Yep, there you go, we can. We can clean that up. Well anyway, guys, thank y'all for watching. I'm shutting this stream down. If you want to chat with me, I'm at I meant uno, serving Serving the bar to uno. The uno man's a feature spot Um and near where I'm at and uh, yeah, I'm in the bartender, so I wear a really tight shirt and some really tight pants to get extra tips from women. So I gotta get ready.

Speaker 2:

All right, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1:

Oh, oh, yeah, All right. Last comment uh, that said the mood. You can find a good man. You might just put a little coat. No, why it's perfect? I love it. I think, yeah, I think that's one of the spots where you draw a line.

Speaker 2:

I don't think anybody would fault you.

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Bisexual Partners and STI Communication
Gender Roles and Relationship Dynamics
Media Influence on Gender Perception
Prioritizing Self-Improvement and Financial Stability
Identity and Equality in Relationships
Embrace Individuality and Acceptance