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Taking It !! Comedy, Culture, and Controversy: A Deep Dive into the World of Katt Williams

January 09, 2024 Jamar Saunders
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Ever wondered how a master comedian turns a curveball into a home run? Katt Williams does just that and we unlock the secrets behind his mental agility and sharp wit during his latest uproarious visit to Club Shae Shae. The man's storytelling prowess and articulate responses will leave you both educated and entertained, as we share our musings on his sage wisdom and the evolving landscape of comedy. A must-listen for fans and aspiring comics alike, this episode is packed with reflections on personal branding in comedy, the pursuit of viral fame, and a homage to the art of stand-up in its purest form.

Then, join us as we switch gears to the high-stakes world of celebrity life, with a special focus on Snoop Dogg's strategic moves and the mysterious allure of unique-looking, light-skinned partners. We'll have you in stitches with our theories while also diving into the serious side of showbiz resilience, as seen through Kevin Hart's use of criticism as creative fuel. Wrapping up with the importance of clear communication, this episode is as insightful as it is laugh-out-loud hilarious. Share your thoughts on these comedic deep dives and the colorful tapestry of fame, because after all, it's your laughter that keeps the conversation going.

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Speaker 1:

This is how you know that his IQ has to be high as hell, because how the fuck did you remember to be that articulate and that clearly spoken and like still be asked questions that you weren't prepared for, but also still get across everything you wanted to get across? Welcome to taking it where we talk about whatever is happening in the world.

Speaker 2:

And today we're going to be talking about Kat Williams on the Shae Shae Club.

Speaker 1:

Club Shae Shae.

Speaker 2:

Sassy name but we're going to chat about it Alright, before we talk about how we feel about Kat Williams and the allegations and how he said, these other comedians allegedly said did a couple things and some of them can't read. What's up with Club Shae Shae, what's the name? What's up with Shannon? That's a sassy name. That's a really sassy name for a show, for a dark skin fella in a tight sweater. I had to get it off my chest.

Speaker 1:

I mean, don't forget one of the best living football players there was and is.

Speaker 2:

Sassy.

Speaker 1:

He's branching out into new things.

Speaker 2:

Possibly being sassy is one of them, but with that is like, how do you feel about Kat as a comedian, as a person?

Speaker 1:

I've always been a fan of Kat. I don't think being a black child in America you really have a choice when you grow up.

Speaker 2:

You're like a really big fan of him. Have you watched his comedies before?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I watched plenty of his stand-ups. I sat on his steps Like when I was like six, seven, eight, my mom be watching them, because I wasn't allowed to watch them. But I sat on his steps and listened.

Speaker 2:

Actually you just have a little parental guidance A little bit, a little bit, I think. So I'm not really a big Kat Williams fan. I'm a Deja Pail fan. I like Kevin Hart kind of. I think Kevin Hart really does great in other things other than comedy. My opinion we're not going to go there. He does good in comedy too. I think he has the most family or into comedy. You can actually let your kids listen too. But more on Kat. I think the first time I've seen him was Friday after next.

Speaker 2:

I think so, and then I start oh that guy's kind of funny and I think I'm a boy, damien, and that's all I remember. But I feel like after watching the interview I got a little bit more respect for him. He is very articulate, he knows how to tell a great story and he really knows how to represent himself in a pinch situation. It was really good. He's a very smart guy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, for sure. I can't even tell you where I remember Kat from. I feel like he's just always been there.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Like as far back as I can remember, because they used to have everybody on the comedy tour and Kat usually comes on the comedy tour, usually comes on the next comedy tour. He was just with the Bernie Maxx and the rest of the old school comedians back there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Other than that, I think my view did change him over the years. He's just an old head to me, but now I can see as an adult I'm starting to see the perspective of an adult and just how he thinks what real comedy is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because how comedy is now is so different. You got the really good, talented comedians and then you got the social media influencers, because social media allows so many people to be a comedian now but not everyone is different from stand up, there's different from improv, there's different from skit and most of the social media people are all skit comedians. But Kat Williams is a stand-up and so many I see so many skit comedians do the worst thing possible just jump on stage.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and they don't practice has little little them trying to do a skit. What a live audience. The bigger the audience, a less engagement, true. So that's a lot more to control it up. I think he still does a great job and his comedy tours and stand up is like a not not saying, like it's like a diet talent. I don't think so many people don't do it as well as he does.

Speaker 1:

Can you think about it now Just how social media has affected so many industries In the 80s and the 90s and the early 2000s and whatever all the history? You had to be good and you really had to Perfect your craft, because you had to convince someone who watches comedians every day to let you one stage with In front of an audience.

Speaker 1:

Yeah or you had to audition for movies. Someone who is an expert in that industry had to allow you and give you the opportunity to Show off your skills, so you really actually did have to be one of the best.

Speaker 2:

Exactly one. Try everyone now. Everyone has these immediate kids, digital media kids you can send. There's so many other ways to make like a cheaper way to get into it. It makes it more.

Speaker 1:

It takes where the gate in comedy, I think right now you don't really have to be perfect at anything, because as long as you can convince a hundred thousand followers that you're funny because they You're in whatever there for you page gives them, you know I mean you fit into that, so it's gonna keep giving them having me at more.

Speaker 2:

It's more so a person, a personal brand, is being sold on the stage. You actually comedy itself. Yes, yes, that's frustrating for me. Come on, I'm a comedy fan, so I either watch comedy or action movies. Okay, those are my two things. I mainly watch comedy, though I would rather watch comedy over any other thing, and it's really a not my saying offensive. It's the fact that they're pitting these influencers on stage with the five, five hundred thousand, one million. Yeah, of course they're gonna make the business, the money, because the people are gonna come to see them. They're gonna get that money, but it's not comedy.

Speaker 1:

They can't tell a whole story over an hour and then jump back, jump back to it at the end, exactly and we got people like hat Williams.

Speaker 2:

How he totally how he did that interview was amazing, because it was just like he always had an answer for everything. He knew how to wind yourself around a story. It was great, yeah, well. So, yeah, what else did we see in that interview?

Speaker 1:

See, we did get a bit of a dive into his upbringing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, apparently what All I really got from it was his dad didn't agree with his choices. Have you church family?

Speaker 1:

Yes, and.

Speaker 2:

Witnesses. So he went, and with the Miami, which is not the best place for job witnesses it is not he went straight to hell, what a hell. Miami, florida, whatever it was, that's fucked up, it's so true. Oh man, definitely. Yeah, that was interesting, I guess, what we would be know about your whole in system one of my best friends is Joe this witness.

Speaker 1:

I've been cool with a few of them over the years. The religion is, I feel, for the most part all the job is one, since I know follow the rules very strictly. I know they don't celebrate any holidays. It's a very tight-knit family religion.

Speaker 2:

I kind of like seeing how they react with each other and how they engage with each other. Such a unified church I've rarely ever seen yeah and they have a lot of discipline. One of my friends at work she was raised as Joe witness, mm-hmm, but her siblings were not good. You imagine like you went through your full life and then your new siblings were not. So what the her parents? They guess it got out in the church when she was like 15. So 15 years of being raised, all these was no birthday.

Speaker 2:

No, nothing. And then on 16th you're like oh, we're gonna birthday cuz we want to treat them different too. But here's the thing. She has so much more. I guess you can say more class. Yeah, there's so much more. Just a good person to be around can't describe it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, like you said, they're very disciplined.

Speaker 2:

I can, but it's so extreme to the point where you can see when Cat Williams had to leave because you can't be a comedian. Talk About what he's talking about in being Joe Linus.

Speaker 1:

It's not gonna happen. Okay, he never stopped. I don't say being religious, but he never let go of the points of being like. He never let go of living right and Living with purpose and living with intention.

Speaker 2:

I think that's mainly because it was upbringing you raise. I guess I'm not using word right, because everyone's race different right. But when you're raised with discipline, yes, you don't have to learn a lot of stuff when you're adult. Exactly.

Speaker 1:

Yes that showed a lot it explained why he has always moved the way that he's moved through the industry. Yeah and why you don't see him all the time, but when you do see him, you see him.

Speaker 2:

Exactly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know. I was really impressed with just the whole story about his background. I'm gonna grip to me because I'm like I. You wouldn't have thought any of these things.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, I wouldn't have thought any of that. I was. I was surprised from the hood. Probably a couple of colonies. But here's the thing I didn't know, kevin. This would make me look more into comedians. I didn't realize how much Kevin Hart had to give up to do what he did. I was so much more receptive. So when Cat Williams told his stories, I said, yo, they really go through a lot and give up a lot and shoot. He started out young. Yeah, how many comedians are starting out when they're 33, 34 and then they finally hit it big? How many follows this cat like Kevin Hart have on Instagram? I think over a hundred million, really. Yeah, check real quick, fact fact. Check me real quick. Let's take talk. You addicted to take time I am. We got yo. Tick tock is good. I felt, oh, just getting into, take that. But let me see how many followers Kevin Hart has. It's insane. It's the same amount I can't imagine 179 million 179 million.

Speaker 2:

You're treating and we're treating these icons to social media, icons like legends, with a hundred thousand Like that's insane.

Speaker 1:

That's, it's past their time. Oh, very few og celebrities and even musicians, comedians, whoever have Transition into also, I feel like Snoop Dogg is one of the rare man.

Speaker 2:

He got African ballads. He got every different country ballads. He hang out with that thug, martha Stewart, a lot. I'm gonna gotta worry about her. Snoop Dogg is the man like. He's a really smart business man because he owns most of it. Not if all his masters, he owns most of his masters and with that he just creeps creating.

Speaker 1:

He does and whoever runs his. His Instagram is like It'll be somebody will send me a video and it'll be from Snoop Dogg's page and I'm like he didn't share this, but then all the time is it'll be like some random ass Video that's viral, cuz Snoop Dogg's it happens all the time. I'm like Whoever's running it, good job.

Speaker 2:

Good job. So dogs PR. Or was it social media manager? I love it. Yeah so I remember one scene, an interview he was. He asked Cat Williams, did he get food? Cat Williams actually paused a little bit and he said he was out and he pretty much eluded what was it with Fraser to use? He said yes.

Speaker 1:

At the 32nd pause it felt like yeah, he really hesitated answering that I don't know and he didn't answer. He kind of shied away from it. He just said that he asked Shannon if he ever fumbled the ball.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's pass. And he was trying to say, yes, he did, but it's normal to fail. Yes, he was trying to do it too, and it's not a big deal. Because someone said oh yeah, did you ever get boot off a stage? And here's the thing like, yeah, I think everyone probably in their life got boot off a stage. But we got something called social proof now where, if you got I'm keep going on this If you got a lot of followers or you got a lot of people saying you're funny, people believe you fun.

Speaker 2:

But back in a day if that audience didn't think you were funny, like he was saying not funny, right?

Speaker 1:

Yes, a very good point also he said that the only opinion that matters is the audience.

Speaker 2:

That's the truth. If you got a bunch of rednecks, you got to make jokes.

Speaker 1:

For a bunch of rednecks, you do he said that he has always taken a time to do like. The first 15 minutes of his shows are always about the city and he, wherever he's doing a show, he always takes time to really spend time in that city. Yeah and he was like when I get up there to the show, I know what I'm talking about because I've experienced it and I've hung with the, with the locals and whatever kids, the cool kids.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I digress, I digress, but honorable note worthy mentions. Of this whole thing, this is my favorite part. What was the package you get? You get like you get if you do what you get like a like ugly license wives, or what was the package, who was it till?

Speaker 1:

you get a light skin wife with a weird face and I'll probably take the life of the weird face For $200 million He'll take you to damn Shannon, we both want to save a cord. Yeah, I know my wife a little weird looking, but you know I said I guess, I don't know they probably be happy with a weird face like skin wives that don't do interviews in 20 years.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think the aliens or what if they were like aliens and something and they couldn't tell too much about their upbringing, because they Rather never had one, and they're all implants on earth?

Speaker 1:

You know that truly, genuinely.

Speaker 2:

I see theory.

Speaker 1:

What honestly think is that those are people that get in soul and traffic. That's why they're like. They're readily available to be sold to whoever gets the signs up with the Illuminati. That's what I think. They're just not the pretty ones out of all of their crops. So there was that they hand out for free.

Speaker 2:

I mean sense, I like that. Well, I was like with 1800s to do it. We had a pretty daughter.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

That's pretty smart door. He's like all right, I gotta take her to get home. But when you your other doors, I was immutable. You had to be like, hey, and he anybody the color purple pretty much damn Mm-hmm. But like ludicrous wait, ludicrous wife ain't even ugly.

Speaker 1:

She got weird face.

Speaker 2:

She got a less weird her face First. I think everybody got a weird face. In my opinion, we all got a weirdness, a funny looking face to me.

Speaker 1:

No, and that mean that they've been sharing all week. Some of them bitches.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1:

I'm applicable.

Speaker 2:

Yo, you kiss that shirt really crazy. I don't know if you kissing from her back, sir.

Speaker 1:

I'm saying they probably tell you ahead of time, like a spark in the contract, that she got a weird face slash ugly, because he's both those words and they be knowing that the only. It was only like a couple people on that list. That who one of them? It wasn't his wife. And then what's the? What's his name? Mike Epps. His wife is gorgeous. I don't know why they was on the list.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was like it's been on the list cuz he was named, I guess so.

Speaker 1:

But his wife didn't belong on there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what was it? You said something a little press.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. So he watched the interview and then immediately went to the studio and wrote 16 bars and recorded it and posted it on His socials, cuz I watched it.

Speaker 2:

Yo, alright. So my thing is this right if this guy and Kevin Hart was hurt a little bit too. Kevin Hart pretty much like yo. He got a lot hitting your heart.

Speaker 1:

He said the most nicest way, Kevin Hart of course he has a stick to his brain. Good job, kevin, you know he said Kevin was an industry plant and all this stuff, because who comes out with their first movie and it's funded and they get to be the main character of the movie. I thought about that a little bit and I might be a like a little bit. I Can't tell if we're like in the demographic for Kevin Hart or if we're a little bit younger than the demographic for Kevin.

Speaker 2:

I we were in the demo. We're in the middle. No, we actually. We got hit like Kevin Hart started actually be big. We're in high school, you remember?

Speaker 1:

No. Seven, 2010 ish, 2011 ish, all that time that he started popping so maybe I was late to the crack, cuz I do remember watching soul plane when it first came out. I don't remember paper soldiers.

Speaker 2:

Here's the thing like all right, that's my thing with Kevin Hart. He's more, he's a businessman. Yes, so he has the most products and offers out of all the comedians out of on this out period. He has shows, he has audio books, he has Books. He has a whole production company. They don't have that, they're just the, they're just a personal brand.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's what you gotta think about. That's his talent like that's his other talent, like he got in being a comedian, but that's not like he's multi-talented exactly Then he also, like he came in older, a little older than some of these comedians.

Speaker 2:

He came in what 30s? He has 30s, you know, even to meet in 50 years. I read as like a little book about it. I, he came in the 30s and no one that's rare in it. Now, you see, that's not rare. Like a lot of people, a lot of undiscovered comedians come in their 30s to 40s and they don't start popping into the 40s. Yeah, just popped a little younger and what he's? What his thing was this he was in Philly. He was going to Philly clubs didn't get much love and someone was like bro, stop complaining and go to New York. And that's how he started getting big, because he stopped complaining, going to your I.

Speaker 1:

Never.

Speaker 2:

I'm a Kevin Hart audio book fan and Kevin Hart book fan.

Speaker 1:

I never. I've never. I've always been a Kevin Hart fan. I've never questioned whether he was the industry plant or not. Question about how big he got, because I I blindly support Kevin Hart because he's from Philly or he really made a good PowerPoint to sell his point.

Speaker 2:

Either way, but with the little crust thing you shouldn't be firing back up on it if it never. It wasn't that, for I want to say nothing If he's really trying to defend his wife.

Speaker 1:

He says what's ugly and the whole internet geeking at it. You gotta say something.

Speaker 2:

Okay, he's still do her. She must not be that over.

Speaker 1:

Cat Williams, still single. He explained why he's single he don't need a wife.

Speaker 2:

No, that's not like a ain't a single person say it and say I'm.

Speaker 1:

Cracking up. No, you know what he really like. I Don't know how to explain it.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I said so many interesting things. I'll use it. Thank you, a little feminine. Okay, but then I also was like you may be a pimp.

Speaker 1:

I'm cracking up. It was the perms. That's why you the power Only a man who truly walks in his own masculine that he can rock a perp.

Speaker 2:

It's like the show at the same time, but I don't never want to be a snack with a nigga with a perm, but with that All right. So what was your favorite part of interview? Closing thoughts.

Speaker 1:

I really liked His how he explained his version of being a feminist.

Speaker 1:

He's a feminist in his own way, like he talked about. I don't know. He just owe you with the Taraji, no the fact that he just if he has a team. There's only a certain amount of things that a man can do, that a woman can do, and generally a woman can do it better. So he'd rather have them do it if he got to have a team that he got to talk to in the morning, you know, when I saw a bunch of niggas births. He rather smell women's breath. He hasn't rolled a blunt in 20 years and To roll a blunt you need To libra and you don't want to smoke a nigga saliva every day. So a woman has been rolling his books for years. I.

Speaker 1:

Guess so he hasn't been married, but he always has women around him. I you got any kids he has ten kids his five girls and five boys, seven seven of them are adopted.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so we got three. That's all nice. Yeah, so he's a family man. He helps the adoption, which is really good. That's a big crisis.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, because he was like he was talking about. He was a child, homeless at some point, and what if he had to be responsible for his Younger siblings at that time? Out and fucked up. So he saved kids. Who was out and fucked up? I?

Speaker 2:

Like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there was a lot to be commended. Some people, they, they really live and walk in their truth. I had the same conversation with somebody trying to, who was trying to understand keys. We and I'm like thinking about it too hard like some people, when they talk they just you believe them because they live in it. You know I mean they might disappoint you one day, but still they back in it up.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to be seen as a positive Influencer at all, because as soon as I do one thing like forget the pay for a can of soup or some shit, y'all play. Oh, this guy is the worst person ever. He's cheating the fish, it's all his money and that's how I feel like they'd be ready. Rip your head off. You cut celery wrong. It's the wrong way to cut celery, but right with this.

Speaker 1:

Whatever your brand is, as long you know I mean, you live in what your brand is you set and let everybody know who you are up front.

Speaker 2:

Nobody's gonna be upset that, as you saying, cat wings of this he's with his brand, is right.

Speaker 1:

He might not have been able to understand it fully, or only the people who are paying attention and literally listening to him Understood it this whole time. But now, apparently, everybody's interested in not even him just bashing. A lot of people also just Getting to hear women speak about who himself. Will you know who is Cuz? It's getting about a hundred thousand views an hour. God damn, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Shannon sharp at the right person today. Interview the right person today. It is my thing is. He walks in, he says shanna, I got some things to tell you, and he just first 30 minutes. It's just on everybody's ass.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna hang on.

Speaker 2:

I like the time I was like, alright, this interview should be over. Right now I look 35 minutes at the all-at-est. You still got two hours or 15 minutes Exactly. I was like yo yeah it didn't even get.

Speaker 1:

It didn't get boring for one second.

Speaker 2:

These are really great.

Speaker 1:

He's a really good interview E this is how you know that his IQ has to be high as hell, because how the fuck did you remember to be that articulate, in that clearly spoken and like still be asked questions that you weren't prepared for, but also still get Across everything you wanted to get across?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I also think you did County specials.

Speaker 1:

True, you do have to be able to think about yeah, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 2:

County specials are really like yo yeah, don't break on the county special.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's true. You have to remember everything that you're gonna say for a whole hour.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

This was three hours.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

So I say he's, he's paid off, definitely, yeah, that's a good point. So those are my thoughts. I thought it was a great interview, very informative, and check it out.

Speaker 2:

Yes, let us know how you like it. Definitely watch the whole interview and like, share, subscribe and let us know what you like and let us know where we can improve. And Check us out on Instagram. Tick, tock, all that good stuff. Thanks for watching.

Speaker 1:

Yes, thanks for watching, taking it.

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