As we navigate the labyrinth of our society's norms, the over-sexualization in media and entertainment stands out prominently. This episode guides you through a critical analysis of this pervasive issue, its impact on our perceptions, and its potential implications for younger generations. We question if the portrayal of real life in these mediums is necessary, or if certain elements should be filtered out. Drawing from our own experiences, we bring to light some subtly laced messages from the cartoons and TV shows of our childhood that may have shaped our worldview.
The episode further ventures into unchartered territories of body image, self-esteem, and early exposure to sexual content. We discuss the burdens and responsibilities that parents bear in such an environment and the crucial role that celebrities and influencers play in our self-confidence. The conversation evolves into one about consent, a vital component of sexual interaction, and the potential misunderstandings and dire consequences that can arise from innocent gestures like eye contact.
As we conclude, we delve into the impacts of pornography on relationships and our understanding of consent. We encourage you to consider the effects of dating on academic focus and how social dynamics shape our dating experiences. Finally, we provide insights on how to navigate parenting in a world teeming with over-sexualization and how to maintain a safe and healthy environment for children. Engage with us in this critical discussion and gain a fresh perspective on the over-sexualization in our lives, its influence on our relationships, and self-perception.
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As we navigate the labyrinth of our society's norms, the over-sexualization in media and entertainment stands out prominently. This episode guides you through a critical analysis of this pervasive issue, its impact on our perceptions, and its potential implications for younger generations. We question if the portrayal of real life in these mediums is necessary, or if certain elements should be filtered out. Drawing from our own experiences, we bring to light some subtly laced messages from the cartoons and TV shows of our childhood that may have shaped our worldview.
The episode further ventures into unchartered territories of body image, self-esteem, and early exposure to sexual content. We discuss the burdens and responsibilities that parents bear in such an environment and the crucial role that celebrities and influencers play in our self-confidence. The conversation evolves into one about consent, a vital component of sexual interaction, and the potential misunderstandings and dire consequences that can arise from innocent gestures like eye contact.
As we conclude, we delve into the impacts of pornography on relationships and our understanding of consent. We encourage you to consider the effects of dating on academic focus and how social dynamics shape our dating experiences. Finally, we provide insights on how to navigate parenting in a world teeming with over-sexualization and how to maintain a safe and healthy environment for children. Engage with us in this critical discussion and gain a fresh perspective on the over-sexualization in our lives, its influence on our relationships, and self-perception.
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I Welcome to me and get a podcast with your host, your mars, today. We got a great episode today, but before we get on the topic of the episode we're gonna be, I'm gonna bring in kendall. What's going on, kendall?
Speaker 2:What's up people? I hope everyone's having a good night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, I'm having a great night as well. Um, we're very, very one of those very, very rough days at work.
Speaker 2:Oh goodness.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, don't be good at your job. That's all I can say, because I'll try to keep it when you're trying to get another promotion. The argument today was do we lose you or do we keep you because you're good at your job?
Speaker 2:I'm helps at all. That also sounds like the conversation you were having the last time we talked about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got to the point. They pretty much said I had to wait for a promotion until they cover my position.
Speaker 2:This is how you're gonna leave you right where you at. You're gonna get the chill.
Speaker 1:Man, I didn't check.
Speaker 2:Would you have to train someone?
Speaker 1:uh, I don't have the train, nobody. I hope I don't.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you're gonna be replaced, somebody got to do it.
Speaker 1:That's true. Oh, we got Troy on the. We got Troy here. What's up, Troy hey?
Speaker 2:my guy it's all right man.
Speaker 1:Time zone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Daylight savings time and daylight.
Speaker 1:I got messed up, you know.
Speaker 3:I mean, my time don't change, everybody else's time changes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was on the bus and have the change.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right, so I gotta adjust to everybody else, but it's fine, that's why.
Speaker 1:Damn. Well, anyway, we just checking on each other. But with that being said, let's get straight to the episode, right? So today it's gonna be over sexualization in america, right? Okay? So what sparked this current conversation for me personally Is because I'm tired, like the over sexualization during ads, during instagram, during everything. Like it feels it's getting so numb to it. You know what I mean. Like I'm just like big booty holes everywhere. It's like it's not even making it hard anymore. At this point. I'm just like damn, what a flat booty Jones that.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, after you pass a certain threshold it just becomes like it's like an addiction, it's. I'm just numb. Now.
Speaker 3:This doesn't make me happy anymore exactly um, I don't know because someone mentioned that recently about like um, having too much sex in like shows or like movies and stuff like that are like Not necessarily meeting it, and a part of me is like yes, but at the same time I mean People be fucking like at the end of the day. We're gonna represent real life, then like represent real life. You know, I'm saying, if that's the, the idea, like I get not Surrounding a plot or something around it.
Speaker 3:Um, you know, like the movie sex drive, I mean it was literally just to go and Meet a girl and fuck, like that was the whole point of the movie. So you know, I get like not making that the plot, but like Don't act, like it don't happen.
Speaker 1:If that makes sense let's go back to the movies, like I don't know, I don't know your ages, but I'm 32, right? So PG 13 movies were different back then. So what y'all think is a PG 13 movie is my used to be my radar.
Speaker 2:I don't know that's true. A lot of the standards haven't really changed that much.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would say the biggest change is just like movies, try not to be purposely Offensive but for the most part like. I don't know if the threshold has necessarily changed.
Speaker 1:Nice, it was like no sexual Indo-e-endos or nothing and shows back then.
Speaker 2:No, I don't say that, that's. I'm gonna say yeah, all of them, whether you're talking about like old school cartoon network um Nickelodeon.
Speaker 1:Ren and Stimpy was. Uh, I can't say that that one was the one right there, ren and Stimpy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, these all had like and Johnny Bravo existed.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:I mean like and like how his mom was animated.
Speaker 1:Hey man, I didn't even notice that kid. All right.
Speaker 3:I mean even, like I just said, cow and Chicken. There was like literal ass eating jokes on there, like or like, um, exactly.
Speaker 1:We got overstimulated. We got like. We got like uh, was it so the build-up messages? Now everybody eating butt yeah this is.
Speaker 2:This is super old. Um, oh, my god. We're so into like the. They're like squirrels or something. They're like black and white, like rodents. They're human eyes. There's like a joke where one of them is holding the other and they say fingerprints and it's supposed to be like a pun on fingering prints. Like the artist.
Speaker 3:This is from. I'm gonna add a maniacs and a maniac.
Speaker 1:I remember that that's.
Speaker 2:That's one like it depends on how you're also going, because, like you say, like what cartoons that I go up with? I'm thinking edda and neti, fosters home for imaginary friends, um kids next door, these all have like Not adult themes in them. But if a parent is watching too, there's like, hey, this one's for you, like it exists in all of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah they had to make sure.
Speaker 3:Like parents were able to watch it with their kids.
Speaker 2:The trap is like this, this new generation, no matter what it is, are they talking about? Like television, music, movies, um, healthcare, education, everything has changed. But there's always the argument of like oh well, back in my day it didn't used to be like this. It's like no, you just weren't paying attention.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like, if you say that you're wrong, because back in the day it was kind of like that, but it's more, I think, for kids they can sneak it a lot more. You know what I mean? Let's say I was doing.
Speaker 2:Music class doing puff the magic dragon.
Speaker 1:Say again.
Speaker 2:Have you heard the song puff the magic dragon? Oh, hell, no I think like a lot of middle schools. This was like a choir song that would do and it was literally about like smoking weed.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, I, that's the least clever.
Speaker 3:What I'm seeing is.
Speaker 1:It's not kids tiktok at like 12. I'm seeing like you know you can see what kids like and algorithm changes for them. I'm looking at screens in this uh, this, uh summer program I'm doing to help build character and kids, and all I'm seeing is big booties bouncing bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, back to like our childhood if we had the same access to like tiktok.
Speaker 3:We had bt uncut.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I imagine like my mother popped by little Wayne tiktok song.
Speaker 3:All.
Speaker 1:I have.
Speaker 3:I'll say the biggest difference is just more. So I think back then it was Any window or like secretive, like they said at okay. The only difference is now.
Speaker 2:No, it's. It's not low kids directly, we're just all it is there's no time for.
Speaker 3:Well like so, like you know what I'm saying, like back then, like, um, let's you know, I'm trying to think of a song. Um, I hate thinking one specifically right now, but it would just be like, yeah, clearly he's talking about parking, but it's like in such a way that he's sick, all this other shit, but that, whereas now it's just straight up like hey, let's fuck. I ain't got time to romanticize you with these words. I ain't trying to sound smooth, we fucking, or you mean that's that's the biggest difference. But I think it's the same energy, it's just More directs.
Speaker 1:Now, what about, like the mainstream media?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have to narrow that down. Mainstream media can be a lot of different stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh, definitely not, kandace owens. But um, let me think, let's say let's go to hip hop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good one to start.
Speaker 1:I sure Is this. We'll start with hip hop.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's kind of like what I said, but obviously I don't think they've ever really cared about covering it up, so it just depends on the artist.
Speaker 2:I think of anything, it's that the a lot of the drivers for it now are like women Women did before, like we're popular in rap and would get popular like rap hip hop circles, but now, like the people spearheading rap and hip hop, like you can't name the top 10 right now without naming at least a handful of women. Um, and it was probably the same back then, but beyond the top 10 down to like the top 100. There's probably a lot more women now than there were before. Um, so when you bring them all into the mainstream too, and a lot of it is like empowerment and like, hey, I can be sexy and educated, I can be sexy and a decent rapper, I can be sexy and a decent um, like bioengineer doesn't make the stallion have like a degree and like some kind of bioscience. Like it's not, like these people are not doing the work on the side and then also just like flaunting them.
Speaker 3:Little can also exist and you can be yeah.
Speaker 1:So you don't think like all right. Do you think let's go to the self image. Do you think Like how does that like the self it like? How does over sexization affect self image?
Speaker 2:I don't think there is such a thing as over sexualization in adult media. If we're talking like children or like teen based media, no, but we never talk about like, oh, there's too much violence in these movies and tv shows and video games. There are people who say it, but there are very small fraction of the community who misappropriate all of like the causes of widespread violence to like video games and stuff.
Speaker 1:So I don't think we don't think grandfathers cause all his mass shootings.
Speaker 2:I don't think grant that thought out of the recent kids walking to schools doing shooting, because it's ultimately because games are Movie shows.
Speaker 3:They're not there to raise your child you are. So it's like it's kind of up to you to kind of put it in their heads like, hey, don't go and rob somebody's car, you know, I'll be the sheriff, somebody with a bat, this is just a game. If they get it in their head and you ain't teach that, and they get it in their head, it's something.
Speaker 1:They're like are you, are you like seeing parents have responsibility to raise their kids?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, now, now I notice it's a concept.
Speaker 3:I get it, it's a concept as well. But yes, raise your children.
Speaker 2:Not to mention like 30, 40, 50 years ago. It wasn't like video games, because they weren't as popular yet it was comic books. The American Comics Authority comes in and says hey, this is the reason kids are getting violent in schools, this is the reason crimes are going out, and it's like Batman running around beating up criminals, superman punching Nazis and stuff Like no, comics aren't the reason.
Speaker 2:Nothing wrong with punching Nazis. That's why I mentioned it. It was violence that was glorified in comic books and when you actually pull it out it's like, okay, maybe Superheroes committing like violence against people who are also doing violence, just big guy or big good guy versus big bad guy. It doesn't mean someone's going to go out and think like I'm going to punch the hell out of my bullies today. It might give them the confidence to like protect themselves or defend themselves. But kids aren't shooting schools because of Superman and they're not shooting schools because of call of duty either. So the whole sexuality thing if you're introduced to sex pretty early, it can like, not even through like molestation or anything. But if you're introduced to it through like finding somebody's like stash, it will probably have detrimental effects on you for the entire duration of your life until you seek help. But it's not to say that Cardi B and Meg the stallion going up on stage doing their thing are like the reason Little boys are losing their shit anymore, like that's not about little girls, though.
Speaker 1:Do you don't think like if a girl's not built like like mega the stallion, you'll think like she has like self image issues.
Speaker 2:I don't think we can put self image like responsibility on who just take care of their bodies, like if you were to look at, um, you all know Tyler the water girl, yeah, yeah, she's like make me sweat, make me hot. You haven't seen the girl that's performing that song. She's blowing up. She was on Jimmy Fallon and everything.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right, okay, but she's. She's very, very beautiful, a super duper, skinny relative to like Magda Stallion, who's like hell, this is being thicker. There are a lot of different body images and your relation to body image is always going to come from how your parents raised you. Just like Troy said, it's never going to be like, oh man, magda Stallion and Cardi B or so like this, that the other I want to be, that that will exist. But to temper and reel it in is the responsibility of the parents to tell them like hey, not everyone's going to be built like that.
Speaker 1:So you think we should. So you're saying that it can happen. But it's up to people that you know stay grounded so they won't get hit with like maybe lower self-esteem.
Speaker 2:It's going to happen. But there's going to be a vast majority of influences that we have to push outside of the celebrities and stuff, because we can't tell people to not be attractive. We can't tell people men specifically to not be like built up and strong and healthy, like if you were to cast He-Man for a movie. And if I take my kid to go see He-Man and he's like daddy, I want to look like that. I mean, steroids exists, but otherwise it's not really fun. It's not going to be a realistic thing for an eight year old to look like He-Man. It's not likely for an 18 year old to look like He-Man, no matter how long he's been training. But the fact of the matter is that if you instill them with like healthy values to begin with, they're not going to get their joy by comparing themselves to other people in the first place.
Speaker 1:All right, I got a little comparison for me, right?
Speaker 2:Do it.
Speaker 1:This is one celebrity. I'm happy he's gone.
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 1:My favorite celebrity. I'm happy he's gone, so Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And this is why All right, I could if I bought my girl to a Michael Jackson show and she did this shit the first five minutes he got on stage. You see the Jones, when he just got on stage and opened the shirt and like bitches are just feigning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what about it?
Speaker 3:Oh it's just screaming for like 15 to 20 minutes at a time.
Speaker 1:Like would you feel like? Would you feel confident that you don't make your girl faint or your man?
Speaker 2:Like a Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3:It's, I mean. So that's. That's actually kind of a little bit into my next point or what I was going to bring up Individualism, understanding like yourself, just so that you understand other people. I wouldn't feel away because it's like I'm not Michael Jackson, so, unfortunately, that the same thing that can tour and buy whatever the funky wants and dances his ass off, has written, and so I go ahead Because it's like I'm not, I'm not that, I am who I am, he is who he is and I'm going to. I got you for whatever the fuck reason that I got you for whatever I am, but I'm not going to.
Speaker 1:You got me because you know. You know you ain't fainting towards me. But what? Michael Jackson on stage you pay for $500 tickets.
Speaker 2:If you're not getting that experience, bring her flowers, chocolates to the next time you pick her up for like a date or something, and make sure it's chocolate that she likes. You ain't going to see her faint, but you go see her water.
Speaker 3:I'm going to say honestly, I don't think you want. If you do want somebody to faint, maybe get someone with narcolepsy.
Speaker 3:I don't see fainting in everyday life too often so but no, like just with the whole body thing real quick, like individualism, like it's fine to like look at a certain body type and want that, or like try to work towards it, but everybody's body doesn't even work. To fucking say like what one person can do for their body will work this way will completely not work for you or you'll have to do something else. So it's like I think people just have to get more into the their, their individuality. Like literally, it's just about getting into yourself, and the more you're into yourself, the less others, everybody else itself, gets to you, you know.
Speaker 1:The outside just saying I kind of want to be more like them guys. You see, at the pool they just take this shirt off, knowing they ain't got nothing going on.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's pure confidence man. It's not for a conference, it's nothing but for a book of positions you go to the gym.
Speaker 2:Enough. You're eventually going to be like oh, I can like consistently go to the gym without like feeling weird about people looking at me. There will be people who always feel a little weird about it, but I mean, there's also always going to be people who deal with anxiety and like depression. You're always going to have like the looking over your shoulder to see if someone's catching up to you moment. But it's really important to just realize that everyone's on their own track. They're not trying to pass you, they're just running their own race.
Speaker 3:And healthy competition is cool sometimes too. That helps you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but looking over your shoulder is healthy.
Speaker 3:It's not healthy, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think, like also with the gym, like going back to that, like you always will feel small, if you don't get the right mindset going to the gym, you will never be good enough going to the gym.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1:I realized that like, even like going to, I always felt fat and I wasn't the best shape in my life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you go to the gym and see a guy who's been there for like 34 years and he's in the best shape of his life and now you're like dang, I love like a lot of weight.
Speaker 1:I've been there for two years yeah put on some of that weight.
Speaker 2:I don't look like that, nah, but um.
Speaker 1:So you don't think early exposure is a sexual images mess with your mind at all.
Speaker 2:Early exposure to like intentionally sexual images probably does do some type of damage or set up like a dysfunctional relationship with sex that will follow you later. I really don't think that something like I mean. This is also why, again, we have things like in cursing they say parental advisory like suggested you're supposed to watch over your kids and stuff they consume. Your kids aren't supposed to be finding just random sexual images on the internet, and I don't think a lot of the more sexualized media figures are branding themselves as content for kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 3:I was gonna say I'm gonna. I'm saying I think it depends on what the sexual situation, our exposure is right. If you're exposed to some violent porn or some wild shit, you know I'm saying that might have some kind of offense. You know, I'm saying, if you like, come to discover something on your own right, like so how we're mentioning, you know, finding a stash or something like that, that one is slightly touchy but like I think it's a little bit better if you come to it on your own and just add some type of like I said, wild shit, like I'm trying to think of something very specific, but you know, just like, like gangbang.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. You find some gangbang type fucking Bukaki. Shit is like okay, wow, wait a minute, like what?
Speaker 2:the fuck is this? Can you explain?
Speaker 3:I would put it up but don't. But you know what I'm saying. You find some shit like that and like, you know, 10 years old or something that, yeah, that might have.
Speaker 2:I think finding even vanilla porn at 10 would probably fuck you up pretty badly.
Speaker 3:Even like the most violent passion and shit.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's the thing about it is a 10 year old is supposed to be worried about like their sports and then, or whatever they do after school. And then girls are supposed to be worried about like either keeping their grades up or their sports, whatever it is. They're not supposed to have any idea what like sexual contact is at that point. So to see, like the full blown thing, when their classmates are all saying the birds and the bees, the birds and the bees, the birds and the bees, and they're just like, oh yeah, like you said, gangbang Bukaki, that's like they've probably experienced something that will desocialize them from a lot of the kids around them for a lot of their early childhood years and up into adolescence.
Speaker 3:I mean that depends on where you grow up.
Speaker 2:I mean yeah, but kids in school aren't typically like I work in a school. Now the kids there are kids who clearly have been exposed to some stuff they shouldn't have seen. That will make the jokes in circles among themselves. And there will kids that will overhear and like kind of understand what's going on. But for the most part if you start slinging vocabulary like they're not going to understand that they won't like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like Bukaki, yeah, like that one kid that one kid who has heard of it because he's been exposed. He goes on, says that to a classmate. They're like what's that? He tells them to look it up. It spreads from there.
Speaker 3:But I mean also there's. There's a thin line, I think, with that too sometimes, because I think sometimes we forget how young we may have even thought of some of these things. I even thought because, like also finding it, Well, not always right, like I think Logical guys find it.
Speaker 1:What did you guys figure out? Final, more about sex. I.
Speaker 3:Don't? It's kind of funny. I feel like always like I didn't have any like experience, anything, but I just feel like I always knew. But like the earliest memory I have is is Watching like HBO late night and Cuz. I used to stay up a lot and you know, watch like movie, like scare movies and stuff like that, which I probably shouldn't want me there, but whatever and Later in the night you know that's what some of the freak shit come on. It's all came across shit like real sex and you know stuff like that, and I'll just be like huh, and I know I was, like Said about 10, 11, 12 in that range, if not slightly younger, and I just recall even Just having like I've always had a really inquisitive brain anyway and always just thinking of shit. So like I remember Just having, I mean, you know, just being like okay, what's that, why is that? What's this now here?
Speaker 2:It's really different than like being ten and then having the answer.
Speaker 3:Right, I.
Speaker 2:Like okay, everyone like what? The I'm taking a shower Versus like oh yeah, I've done this like 732 times. That's what's going on, guys. And it's like dude, we're 11, why do you know? Okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I do guys at that a middle school who used to be like, oh yes, I'm like you know, like talking like they were just and will make other people feel bad for not fucking and it's like I Should. I feel bad that I'm not having.
Speaker 1:Like, all right, I'm kind of happy, mine. I didn't do a lot of that shit until I got out of high school, because all my friends who did it in high school they have like a lot of regrets, like they were like treating sex like. You know, I mean like sex became a like addiction in them. It's like they just kept looking for like the feel, like the fill in the hole. Well, after I came, it was like I thought I had more control over my body.
Speaker 1:But, like some of my friends who are still addicted to sex because they've been doing it since they're like 12 or 13, just like they don't have was like stable relationships or you know, I mean they're just looking for the next big like rush.
Speaker 2:Second, I have a friend right now who's like coming out of like a super toxic relationship situation. When I tell you, this man is like going back to his home state in like two weeks, or even less than that, and After this relationship he's just on Tinder on hinge and he's just chasing ass, I'm like, bro, you don't have got a crib of your own right now. You have your job, which is dope. You have your car, which is dope. You have a plan to like move soon, but you are currently staying at a hotel dealing with the fact that she just did what she did and said what she said. Do some self-work like.
Speaker 2:Yo you know it's crazy.
Speaker 1:You remember we were younger and ultimate comeback was this but you won't get no bitches, though. Oh, yeah, yeah, oh, it's all this to say is that's what your friend is going through like? Sure, you ain't got no money, sure, as girl left them, but is he getting bitches? Yeah?
Speaker 2:That was happening back then, my kids would actively. These are 13 14-year-olds saying you ain't got no bitches. And then it's like what's going on Did and it was awful, it was. Yeah, yeah, what the hell are you doing and why? We are 14 years old and you're at these firehouse parties doing God what happened to you.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry but I can go. I Was gonna say I also. That made me think I grew up in a pretty Ricky air. Oh, so we was at the basement parties hip-rollin and ground working. Oh, looking back at that, like shit is like shit. Like that it's interesting cuz. Like it was hypers. It was really fucking freaky. It's like now I'm looking back at it like it was whole ass Basically fucking parties, but with clothes on, cuz that was how he's dancing, you know, hip-rollin on that.
Speaker 2:I was wondering. I'm like, how do people even like why? This doesn't sound fun. To me this doesn't sound interesting what you're doing.
Speaker 3:I mean, it was just a dance, you know. But I mean also, it was like that was at the time of like, oh, if he can go girl, he can dance, if you can dance, you can you know? Like. And so it was almost like people was like we're like auditioning people to fuck, or something.
Speaker 2:That's party with me that way for a long time.
Speaker 3:That's pretty much what it was.
Speaker 2:Number one meeting spots oh.
Speaker 3:That actually makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for like one night stand.
Speaker 3:Well, I know more. I don't think.
Speaker 2:If you're going out physically to do something, it's still nightclubs, it's still bars. That's still like the primary nightlife people used to.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I've seen people walking in bathrooms like boys and girls together, just really.
Speaker 2:Small venue. I like try to open one of the doors and I'm just like I Back out so quick and, mind you, this is a true story. This is a wedding I went to like not even three years ago now, where there's maybe 120 people there not the biggest wedding of all time, not exactly small, but not the largest either and you just see them fly one in the in the bathroom. It's like, all right, well, I'm gonna go shit in the other one, I guess.
Speaker 1:Cool, it's like that, man Also. Let's, let's get to Objectification, right.
Speaker 2:No, that's a fun one.
Speaker 1:So I believe so at one point I think I used to. So we all found our stashes right and we were born poorly. We're born near the internet age. Our stashes just got a mince. I have virtual everyone's a virtual stash now and I think it did like. Just seeing a lot of it just definitely made me more so. Ejectify a woman, you know me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the nature of the thing.
Speaker 1:Now, I was just like yo, like Cheeks, bitches, cheeks, those are cheeks. I.
Speaker 3:Mean opposite. But yes, for me, it took me like, let's say I was like 25 and I was like Wow.
Speaker 1:They have their own thoughts, emotions, their own spirits, their own souls. They make their own. Yeah, crazy how that works you know, you know my life getting in their life decide dictate their life. Oh.
Speaker 3:Shit.
Speaker 2:I was like oh, that's why early introduction is so bad because you don't see like the crush, the girl you have a crush on in school as like Okay, well, I'm just supposed to like have those feelings for her when you're thin when it goes beyond that and you're used to like your stash. You're used the objectification already. That's where those people you guys are talking about like you get no bitches. This kid's probably ran at the porn pretty early.
Speaker 3:I Consider that too, because, like I'm like you know, no fucking day or whatever and I used to hang on a lot of women, but like I didn't I don't know if I, like I knew, but I just didn't say anything about it. So some people speculate, people wouldn't, and, Again, you know, I will hang out with a lot of girls and they used to be like I mean, I definitely had a face, but but yeah, I think.
Speaker 3:Um, for me, I mean, I kind of my well, the way that I objectified it was you know I'm also objectified men but it was just like I wasn't able to have friendships with the game in for a while because I just want to fuck all of them. Another one, hey, we can do it. Fuck yeah, like I wasn't. I.
Speaker 1:Little, not exon here, majek.
Speaker 3:I guess even I wouldn't listen to one, but yeah, quote-unquote.
Speaker 1:This man take quote-unquote. While I was in the car I was with my friends, she was listening to it. Quote-unquote. Little nigga, I'm trying to fuck.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's pretty much what it was, what it was for a while. I had to like I'm like yo, yo, everybody is it? You heard what he said to Jack.
Speaker 1:Harlow. He told Jack Harlow, let me out of fuck oh.
Speaker 3:I haven't already.
Speaker 2:Literally two mornings ago I woke up with a video of a butthole in my DMs. Bro, why are women not this bold? Like I'm gonna say that. I'm gonna say it, but I really. I open my phone, I'm just saying a la la, la la Instagram. Ah well, god, fucking damn it. It's not a cute advertisement, guys, it's truly. I mean, maybe it is, maybe it is for some, maybe they've had to.
Speaker 3:I would like to say, I imagine this, them who are like, oh shit, like, but.
Speaker 2:I can't imagine sending her well, not my butthole, but so I can't imagine just sending a new. And then I'm being like ah, yes, yes, come over now. I've ordered your Uber, it'll be there in 22 minutes.
Speaker 3:But I've also been the the random new guy too. I've been on both ends of that new slide not recently, it was years ago, years Back back in the phase you know, back there the whole phase six months is not a year, it's half a year. Listen, it was like half my 20s. Damn hey, I'm 31 now. I said 20s. We good, we go on now Little little less. Ho ish.
Speaker 2:Little less acts.
Speaker 1:Well, have you ever like, alright you objectifying other people? Have you ever been, like, caught off of sexual harassment, or like, or being a sexually aggressive?
Speaker 2:I think the biggest thing is aggressively flirting any. Any like objectification falls under the same umbrella is pretty much anything sexual. As long as it's between adults and they're both consenting, it's usually okay.
Speaker 1:But the harassment part have you ever like?
Speaker 2:It's like okay, so I will say like harassment, but like I've aggressively flirted with a straight person or two before, the courage to even be like overt with people that are like, if I'm at a club or something I've never had the experience of like oh man, I'm just gonna take you to the bathroom. I've never been able to be that. I've been told before that I talked too much and like the lead up. So for me, like it's, especially as an adult it's super duper important like run consent, like every step of the way for me. And then after a while, when there's implied consent, as long as no one like withdraws that and says like I'm no longer interested, after that point it's usually all game.
Speaker 1:So they also are. So have you ever glared at somebody and made them feel uncomfortable?
Speaker 2:God, no, not that I've ever like I've glared at people. I'm definitely like okay, but as far as like being called for it or like, I tend to not make it in such a way that it's overly disrespectful, like if people are gonna look people, look at you, people look at me, it happens Whatever. It's really, really weird when it's like what are you gonna do about it?
Speaker 3:Okay, so this is perfect, because it's kind of like.
Speaker 3:It was like a drunk thing. I don't you know do it as much anymore. But first off, like eye contact was like my Part of my arsenal. You know I'm saying like that look, you know once you, and if we catch it, okay I'm on you. And so I've definitely like, when I say you know I've been caught up for like aggressively flirting with like a straight guy or something, it was like you know it was because I was drunk and so I've definitely done like the eye contact thing. I'm just like looking like it was more guy was like yeah, I mean not really you know, like that.
Speaker 2:So I've been looking back at you for four seconds and I already know I'm naked in your mind. Stop it.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I mean, and honestly I might have made him feel uncomfortable. He didn't really hang around and says much anymore, so I don't know. So I guess technically, I have. Yeah, oh yeah, he definitely mentioned it. I was like okay, see, I like that, hey, you just, it's fine, it's fine. We all learned long time ago, but still.
Speaker 1:I've actually seen like this in like real life too, so even a whole Sukiyana thing, when people were just trying to grab her, yeah, and her mind, yeah, I think she's a. She's a hoe, so it's okay to do that. So they already sexualized a hoe, you know, I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, grown men know that even hoes require consent before you fuck around with them.
Speaker 1:But some guys don't get it, I guess.
Speaker 2:But there's so many.
Speaker 1:My lifetime that be. Quote-unquote hoes, that was like no.
Speaker 2:No, that's, that's how it goes even the most sexually promiscuous woman. And like a college, it's probably not gonna be comfortable with you just kind of like walking up and like, hey, so I've heard you've had sex with like 73% of the guys in the school and it's like the bro.
Speaker 3:Sexual don't mean I want to be sexual with you or I'm required to be.
Speaker 1:I'm not part of my feelings.
Speaker 2:The conversation come. That's where they're like oh well, damn, she is easy. The conversation is where that comes in. You don't just like Grab them, like that's not how it works. You have the conversation, you realize. Oh, she's like super down, oh, I'm also super down, things are happening. And then there you go versus like oh, I've heard that she's had again slept with like 70% of the guys at the school, and then, like grabbing her ass in the hallway, like it's, she's not gonna turn around and drop her pants right there. She's probably stressing about school, stressing about work, whatever it is.
Speaker 1:But you know it's great. People have like done that. Just all the assumptions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's super cringe when people do that. I think everyone's there for the rest of us.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just hop back on the early part of early exposure. That's another part. Porn scenarios. But some people are I say that I'm gonna say some most people. It puts unrealistic expectations on sex or like you get like these wild ass things that you think are gonna have. Like sometimes I hold you up. I've been in some actual sexual situations I was like, oh, this is like some movie shit, but not always. And I think when you, when you're exposed a little bit, you have those idea of mine. Everything almost comes like you know the, the situation on the, the, the porn plot. Oh yeah, you think you saw.
Speaker 1:But it's like it never happens. And now it's below your standard and you're not satisfied because you bought the pizza over to lay. Yeah, you got you All about, such as the bathroom and nothing happened.
Speaker 3:She didn't want extra sauce is now you just did there. Look to see.
Speaker 2:No, that's the kind of it like a scenario that I experienced because I was exposed pretty early too. The first time I got detention I was just like, oh, game one. But it's like you have to grow up, you have to, and it's when you do go through that kind of stuff, when you are especially younger, it is really, really important to get help as soon as possible, because the sooner you get the help, the sooner you can actually work through. Okay, it's not normal for a brain to operate like that. It's not normal, even in adulthood, to think about sex all the time. If you're like getting a one-on-one meeting with a boss because you showed up late too many times, it's not going to go the way that you think. It is based on the kumar brain.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so okay so actually I had a conversation recently I was. I think that the problem comes in because I think, even subconsciously. I think maybe we think about sex, at least like Maybe 60, 70 percent Of the day, but it's a matter of doing something about it. That becomes a problem because you don't always have to do something about it.
Speaker 3:It's just like Consciously stimulate it without even meeting to. You know like we go to the bathroom to hold ourself. You know like we put shit in our mouth, like lick our lips, and you know say like we are Constantly stimulated. So it's like something I think can cross your mind subconsciously or comes to your mind, but I think the issue comes in when you're constantly leading to do something about it.
Speaker 2:Even if the thoughts are impulsive enough, or if the thoughts are intrusive enough not even impulsive, but if they are, like, intrusive enough I can imagine you could classify it as a problem at the point where. I would definitely say get some help.
Speaker 3:I mean my percentage might be off, but like oatmeal and then dang it.
Speaker 2:Damn it's not you, I promise Like no, it's not gonna be a good time. That's not. Or you're at a funeral and it's just like, oh man, I really miss my uncle, and then it Okay.
Speaker 3:Okay, but they're like okay, so there should not have been stimulation there. So, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2:There probably shouldn't be stimulation most of the time. We probably shouldn't be like sexually stimulated. If you're attracted to somebody at the job per se and it's like damn the hell. When I was, um, I I recently went to the art museum and there was a really, really pretty security guard there and I'm like oh, all right, but it doesn't mean I'm out here, like yeah, it's not like that you can.
Speaker 1:Be careful, security guards. Our most toxic woman ever. That's a red flag. Just being security guard, oh shit, wow.
Speaker 3:That's a I need a vibration.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've seen so many security guards getting fights and then also like getting trouble Off of just dating at the workplace or dating people that get mad at them and just come to workplace.
Speaker 2:Don't shit where you eat my gosh.
Speaker 1:I would say yeah, I do this yeah pretty much I was just like here, just leave these security guards alone, leave them alone, um, but also like, let's say, relationship problems. I think if one thing I could say, I had some some thoughts. Right, let's say you scroll on instagram. Instagram is is every man's argument eventually Like you, like a picture wrong, you sniff your other guys jealous like yo, is this what you into? Yes, actually yes. So like it makes you realize that there's always going to be better out there per se, right, so you start to not be so committed to your relationship, you're starting to give away from relationship because you always think you can do better. And I think that's when, like over sexualization, like a zation or sexualizing everything can get unhealthy.
Speaker 3:Because you want to fuck everything out there. You just like that. But it's always gonna be. I mean, I just think that was an. I just If a him or will Smith, one of them, they came to mind, if not, both of them said it but it's always gonna be somebody, you know, smarter, funnier, taller, stronger, whatever the fuck. So you kind of get over that. That's not gonna go away. Everybody's gonna be Different. I think the biggest thing because that's always been a thing is now you just can see it. Now you can go see the better, um, not even the better, but like the taller. Now you go see the thicker and I can go see the shorter, um, the freakier, or whatever. But it's like, so what?
Speaker 2:The grass is greener on the other side. Yep, like this is something a less efficient of long learn by now. Um, so I mean, the problem isn't really like okay, well, I look at my instagram, there's a lot of attractive people. That that's not the worst thing if you are in a relationship with somebody, and it's like a closed relationship, monogamous one. Specifically, you're like, scrolling through instagram, you're like, tap, tap, please respond, tap, please respond, tap, please respond. I sent a picture of my pp, please respond. That's the experience that you're having. It's probably causing problems, but again, this is like 90 internal, how you deal with it within yourself and then how the systems around you helped you to deal with it when you were asking for assistance with it. It's never like oh man, meg, this alien posted here. We go again on zip, like it, it's not gotta gotta take care of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, but so you never had any relationship problems like because you stared at you'd be glaring at a woman old.
Speaker 2:I had the problems, but what I'm saying is it's my responsibility.
Speaker 3:That's who you say it. Um, personally, I haven't. Honestly, I have like a very it takes a lot for me to like really, really, really get serious about somebody. So once I get there, like I Genuinely can't see anybody else, everybody thinks like, oh, he's cute, but I'm not.
Speaker 2:I don't.
Speaker 1:So um workplaces right. I think, like over sex position can harm you in a workplace.
Speaker 3:Oh, hell yeah, especially like.
Speaker 1:You're like, already stimulated from it, you're looking at all your coworkers crazy. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think over. Sexualization as a social concept is a very different thing than sex addiction, though, and it sounds like you can flake the two when you say things like that. If you come to work with a sex addiction, yeah, you're probably gonna have a bad time, no matter what job you work at. And it's like you work in a strip club and it's like, oh man, this place is over sexualized. It's a strip club, right?
Speaker 1:I don't think you're gonna walk into an office building and women are being incentivized to dress like super duper Skimpy because it improves the performance of male co-workers or anything like that, and Got somebody drop a source if it's false, because I think also, like I mean more so like, let's say, going back to like pretty pilt privilege, right, sometimes, if we like focus more so on beauty and attractiveness, right, we might pick someone who may be more beautiful for a role that they may not be as a qualified.
Speaker 2:This is because of predatory men. The woman not being qualified for the job does not excuse the guy getting hard and then saying I need that's a lot of you turn down about her at work like that's not her flaw.
Speaker 1:That's true, that is true.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like this is an introductory to how to not treat women like an asshole guy. I'm like that's what this sounds like to me, because it's like all right, well, what if your boss hires that one secretary just cuz she looks good? She's probably an asshole, nothing to do with her.
Speaker 1:Now it's crazy, like being over like over, like just analyzing things sexually all the time is an asshole trait.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what I was gonna say is Woman gets pulled over by a cop, then she's just like so Anything we could do to reduce that ticket. That's that flips it right. That's no longer a man using his power position over a woman to try and exact some kind of control. It's now the woman who is using her sexuality to try and get out of something or avoid responsibility. It does happen in either direction, but I think cops are usually a little less like upset about that. Then, like women are being used by their bosses in touch Not to measure the pain. Both are unfair, both are unjust. You probably should be flashing your titties at cops. You probably shouldn't be flashing your titties at anybody like a Jehovah Witness cop.
Speaker 2:Then yeah, regardless, but what I'm saying is that it's probably a little bit less of like a harm Still harmful, but less of a harm than a man saying, oh, you're like cute, but I don't think you're suitable for the role, cuz she's really cute, because then you're messing around with people getting jobs, people securing futures to themselves.
Speaker 1:I said you saying, I see you saying I.
Speaker 3:Was just gonna say as far as the workplace thing and I think you broke it down real good my mind was immediately going to just like not fucking with people at the workplace, Cuz I've learned that lesson the hard way. But totally different thing.
Speaker 1:Problems on the dating team man.
Speaker 2:If he's working through that, right, yes.
Speaker 3:I want to say I'm literally working through them. That was all my.
Speaker 2:Journal.
Speaker 3:Thank you. Exactly that's why I'm doing love journals like my, my way to clear up, and you know I shit out.
Speaker 2:I can't wait for that. That's gonna be fun.
Speaker 3:Yes, I was gonna hit you up to I mean like trying to like schedule a bunch of shit this month. So I got you yeah, don't fuck with, don't fuck around at the workplace, people don't do it. So she happened at my house. That got back to the job and I was like how I'm getting pulled into the office.
Speaker 1:We heard you're out here being another Dwight Howard.
Speaker 3:Or your first time. I would never. I'm always gonna let you know.
Speaker 1:Your co-workers said that you you let them in your home, and I know where there's a guy in kitten hills.
Speaker 3:And a big, big dress.
Speaker 1:Yo, that's the crazy scenario. Come on, dwight the white headliners, I'm not gay hey surprise somebody with a threesome Like.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't think a lot of people will accept that like. I think you need to. So that's the thing about some surprises. Even a proposal has to be a certain kind of surprise and needs to be a surprise. He's predictable If someone is like yeah okay, We've never, ever talked about a threesome before. They've never even a losing.
Speaker 2:They tend to be super possessive and catty about even me. Even like looking at other women Showing up and just being like here's another woman for the bedroom Probably not the best idea. But if you've talked about it before, you've said like, hey, that's something I might do for your birthday or for like an occasion, and then she's been talking about it like that's okay. But again, that's just a difference between a predictable surprise and something that someone had like a true surprise, so to speak. Someone had no idea the shit was coming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I see what you're saying because, like I'm alive, I'll have if I. Only we only went to go get coffee and out of nowhere, you know, like you and my crib, you snuck to the window. I said like surprises, and you, just you, just in my bed. I'm like, all right, call cops.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, this is like the best surprise I'm not a horror movie.
Speaker 1:I still feel weird if somebody called me baby after the first date.
Speaker 2:Really I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 1:We have not talked as much yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, I'm on my list too.
Speaker 1:One of the things we're gonna finish up with that. We're almost there, guys.
Speaker 3:Education.
Speaker 1:Some of us care too much about, you know, dating and looking good, and it can impact us on our focus in school.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think, yeah, I'm like, is that a question? That's probably true.
Speaker 1:So, like you ever do you feel like some people actually like Prioritized, looking good and dating over their own education at some points.
Speaker 2:So I don't think it's necessary. But it makes sense in a way. If you die tomorrow, no one's really gonna remember it like people will remember you. You went to college or whatever. It'll be a part of like who you are, but that's not like necessarily the internal experience of having loved someone. So we're almost constantly going to be in a position of not even seeking out relationships. But if one falls into place and it's like hey, this feels nice, it's nice to spend time, have someone to go through your life with, it's always gonna be a good thing to have, whether you're homeless or whether you're the richest guy on the planet. So I mean it makes sense that people stress over it for a long time, pretty much forever.
Speaker 1:I think from my experience I have sometimes distracted myself with dating when I should be doing school work.
Speaker 3:Interesting. See, alright, so I'm lucky. I always look at it like that because I grew up ugly, I was like ugly duckling, so I didn't do a lot of fucking dating, I didn't care about it because I Wasn't necessarily an option. And then, like also trying to be like down low, you know, I'm saying I wasn't like I had no idea how to get to half of the guys I wanted to, so it just wasn't on my radar for a long time and that left room for me to actually focus on my studies and actually focus on like art and Holding a lot of my skills and crafts. And I was just like cool.
Speaker 3:And then by the time I graduated, I started getting cute and then people started like looking at me. I was like I Don't know what the fuck. I have no idea how to do any of this. What's this about? So, but it was like I think that helped me, but I could see where you are also. So the opposite side of my big brother, like two of my older brothers, they're like super fine, fine, as big as you know, we were the same school. So everybody's like, oh, I love that one. Yeah, I'm from Detroit, that's why I grew up.
Speaker 1:I'm in Arizona now, but I might actually next year I might come and visit, so you by the fall dog being your town in negative woods, arizona, I think it's not Sedona, I got figured out it's dang where you getting boxed.
Speaker 2:My boys telling them where you live.
Speaker 1:Is like 45 minutes from Las Vegas. She said I don't know where it is Okay.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, well, let me know, I'll not close, you are.
Speaker 1:Las Vegas, but I'll be close four hours.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna be okay, that's a quick little four-hour trip. But yeah, like you know I'm saying I saw, like my brother like be the opposite in school and he didn't honestly do too much work to be attractive, which I laugh at now because now it's starting to go. Haha, it's you get. But you know, he like I had to hose, quote unquote. So you know what I'm saying Like his focus was dating and hanging out. His academics slipped like a bitch and like he was like one of the best like artists I've ever seen and that's slick.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, because his focus became the dating and being that guy. You know what I'm saying. And so you know I've seen both sides of the spectrum and I think it would be good to have maybe a good balance. You know what I'm saying, I think, because again I got to a point where I had no fucking idea what, even how to date or what I should do not do, like completely oblivious, versus someone who knows all, or I'm gonna say, knows all about it, but their entire being is about it. You know.
Speaker 1:I feel like I still just say a lot of people they front load the dating and eventually settle down. Eventually they figure out what they wanna do for a career. Listen, I thought I was ugly too for many years. I think I found I was attractive like age 28. I'm still learning, Like five years ago.
Speaker 2:See, I was cute when I was a kid and then I was cute in my teenage years. I was just socially awkward, like that was my primary thing. So people would be like you're really cute, you just hang out with the wrong people and I'm just like, damn, I don't hang out with nobody, what you mean? That was like my experience at the time and who you hung out with when you're like in like the end of middle school, all the way up through high school your clique.
Speaker 2:so much about who talks to you, oh yeah, that's so true, that's a good thing, I had a personality and I was like the ouch.
Speaker 3:I could like bounce around of what I say that was nothing.
Speaker 2:I'd gabbled with every group but I was like, after spending an elongated period of time with any of them, I'm just like God. I don't like any of these people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I could go and be at like the quote unquote nurse table and then go to the artsy table and go to the cool kids and like just kind of mix and mingle a little bit. But I never, like I had, like my main, like two or three friends, but you know, the personality kept me on top Our last video social dynamics.
Speaker 1:We're gonna talk about social dynamics. So when society is all about sex appeal, it can lead to people not being treated equally. Have you ever seen someone get treated better than you, even as like a guy? You like Dan. What am I like? Child lover, my brothers, my brothers, literally my brothers.
Speaker 3:I had a girl say, Dan, what happened to you? That's your brother. I was like nothing happened to me. Fuck you. Kids are awful. It's something I had to like do?
Speaker 1:I was like the dark skin one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like I was like like the dark skin one out of my brothers you know what I'm saying. It was like dealing with that and like they all had braids, I had like the shirt, cut my whole, like, like it was like little shit that like I had to. That differentiated me from them that I had to grow to accept, but used to like, really like, get me like and then I was also like the fat one.
Speaker 3:I was the fat one. I was too black. When I was the bald one, it was like what the fuck?
Speaker 1:And I went in there bro. I think it's all right.
Speaker 3:That's why I'm winning now and that motherfucker's looks is going my story was this I totally survived, right.
Speaker 1:So so we're in middle school at this point, about to go to high school, right, and we, my friends, just started dating a girl. I started dating someone as well, and so our friend we know my friend just dated is dating a crazy John, but we don't know she a whole yet either. We don't know she a whole yet, but I remember they were arguing or getting to fight a lot and I don't know what's wrong with me as a child. I don't know somebody like ruin my brain or something and ruin my life. I was just a villain. I became a villain. I was such a sweet kid and eventually I just got a villain. So out of nowhere I pulled out a condom. I slapped her in the face with a whole condom, like any other Jones. She doesn't chase me, she chases him with a knife. So he ran like half a mile, like the punchline.
Speaker 1:And I still haven't gotten in trouble for it.
Speaker 3:I mean, what do you think is going to happen?
Speaker 2:Lucky she shows up at your crib. I think it's a knife.
Speaker 1:Right, well, she was at the worst.
Speaker 3:I know what she did, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I knew, yeah, I got away with a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2:This is really scary.
Speaker 3:I think it happens.
Speaker 1:Bye. What happened? She chased my friend down the street with a knife.
Speaker 3:Hmm, Shit, I don't know how this happened. Yeah, because my thinking is like what I'm thinking like is she mad Because she think he told you a story about something? Oh yeah, Maybe I got my self done that kind of.
Speaker 1:Maybe she started using condoms. Maybe she had a problem not using them.
Speaker 2:Look, she started chasing her friend because that was the night she discovered she was allergic to latex.
Speaker 3:How the hell did you know? Yeah, I burned.
Speaker 2:I can smell people's allergies. That's how I know.
Speaker 1:What the hell Ew.
Speaker 2:Never smell somebody allergic to wheat, and you just know it.
Speaker 1:Damn, it's like you've never heard of it. Oh, that sounds sad. That's why this is a horrible.
Speaker 3:lemme stop First take the hell away.
Speaker 1:That sounds so sad Go baby.
Speaker 3:Go baby.
Speaker 1:Anyway, oh my god. So let's address the issue, though, right? Is there really an issue?
Speaker 2:I don't find there to be an issue now. The issue is when parents fail to parent their kids and stop them from running into content they shouldn't see. We also shouldn't have kids actively watching super scary, bloody horror movies and stuff, but that's also fine somehow.
Speaker 3:Hey, they need to know the rules early. Ok, because I refuse to have a horrible movie child. I've never seen kids in horror movies. They fuck up everything because they don't fucking know anything. They're stupid and I didn't realize the only in horror movie scenarios. And I'll be damned if I have a son, a daughter or a nephew or something and we have some scary movie type scenario and they do some bullshit and I die. They need to know the rules early.
Speaker 2:Horror movies. You can't be in my survival party at them. The world can't happen.
Speaker 1:I believe in the I believe, like, at over sexualization, like if you are going to, I believe it can happen, but I also believe it like I think the parents need to watch out for it and as a kid or whatever you are a teenager or adult you just got to be careful, like getting trapped in it you know what I mean and just getting addicted to all those images and just don't let that shit become the norm, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, have to control your algorithm if that's a problem that you experience as a dude. There was a while where I actually took breaks from like entire social media platforms Because I was like, all right, I can't fix my algorithm, all enough, I don't know how to do it yet, so I would still respond to messages.
Speaker 3:Especially to the feeders.
Speaker 2:They're not going to scroll the feed at all. Twitter, tiktok, instagram all of them are like if you end up in the wrong algorithms, you will stay there for a while. And then people comment on the stuff Like, oh my god, why am I getting this in my feet? You're commenting on it, so they're going to think you want to engage with this kind of stuff. That's why that's happening.
Speaker 3:I'm ass.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll say I agree with everything as far as parents raising a child, but I do have to say there is a balance with that, because you also have to watch out, like with parents.
Speaker 3:I think, when it steps into the gay room you have to watch sexualizing your kids yourself before they have even really started to try to understand or anything. So I don't know exactly what that is, but just finding that balance, because I guess, for example, when I'm seeing a podcast or something recently and I recall myself knowing I was gay as early as I don't know like 10 or 11, just about you know what I'm saying. Not necessarily gay in the sense of knowing exactly what that meant sexually, but knowing that I didn't look at girls the same as other guys did or other boys did, and knowing that I was looking at guys in that same way that they were looking at girls. So that was all I knew. And so when some parents try to, I guess, educate or monitor whatever the case is, they can very easily make it kind of creepy or gross. So just watch sexualizing your kids before they are sexual themselves. Oftentimes they're not even thinking about the act itself, it's just oh, I like this I like him, I like her, that's what?
Speaker 1:it's just a response to the body.
Speaker 2:You know, just to watch.
Speaker 3:Definitely.
Speaker 2:It's having the conversation about what those feelings mean. But then if you're looking at your kid and they're scrolling on TikTok and it's nothing but adult-style dance videos on their TikTok feed, that's a little bit much. But if it's like, hey, I think I have feelings for Johnny across the hallway in the other room in school, that's an entirely different scenario where I don't think you need to worry about over sexualization. You just need to talk about what feelings are at that point.
Speaker 3:Or just my other thought real quick too, when some guys find out that they're having a girl and they're like immediately, oh my god, no. And it's like you're gross because your mind is immediately thinking of all the shit that you've done to girls and you're like going into what the fuck she's about to do in her bedroom. She hasn't even born yet Come get in there, bro. Chill the fuck out.
Speaker 2:But yeah, these jobs are a kindergarten with a shotgun Like if any of you boys even look at my daughter from a date or two. It's like I just handed her a graham cracker.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:I mean, give my girl no crackers. I know what that means. You kind of bribe her the weird stuff, yeah, so yeah, just watch that when you're teaching your children or monitoring their views and stuff. Also, let them watch horror movies at four years old. That's the youngest.
Speaker 1:All right, guys, I really appreciate you for doing this episode about how not to be a douchebag or asshole to women or any of the opposite or same sex in this future. Anyone you're looking at in a sexual way, don't be an asshole to them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I learned so much today.
Speaker 1:They exist. They exist. They have their own soul, their own thoughts, their own everything, and they're not just a sexual object for your entertainment. So treat them like a person. Welcome to our treating like a person, 101 class. Anyways, any last words, guys? Where can we find y'all?
Speaker 2:Oh, what's we doing? Closing statements or.
Speaker 1:Let's just close the statements.
Speaker 2:Do you want to go first, Ray? Do you have yours?
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, pretty much, keep your individualism. Try your best. I know, and it's very, very easy to get wrapped up in sex and especially, like you were mentioning, kids at school always try to play it off like they're fucking so much, because also, too, there are stuff that aren't doing that shit that much and they're just trying to make you feel you know what I'm saying. Bad to fit in. It's very simple, very easy to do. It happens, but just don't ever lose sight of you. Really, just try your best, even as an adult. Like I said, everybody's buying on work the same Just because her DBL came out right, don't be yours, is you might be allergic to some shit. Like, just get more into you, that's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll flip the coin and give the not extreme side of that. But guys, guys, don't be co-marbraned and you're life will improve, like if you were outside and it's like all right, I'm sleeping with somebody today. Like stop, if you go to work and you see a co-worker and you're like I'm going home with her today, like cut it out, that's not OK. Pursue real stuff in your life. Sex is great, don't get me wrong. I completely agree. It's one of my favorite things to participate in, one of my favorite things to do, but it is not something that you should be literally driving yourself to hell over. You shouldn't be getting into relationships with people that you don't belong with over having sex. Just keep your shit clear. Keep your head clear. Keep your body clear of anything that might be consequential of sex. Don't get nobody pregnant. Just relax and it will come as soon as you're ready. That is a pun.
Speaker 1:Well, anyway, guys, thank you all for viewing. How can we find y'all?
Speaker 3:I mean, if you want to find my regular page, Sugar, Troy D Art, Troy Ryan, Freddie Ryan, and then man of horror underscore podcast and Love Journal underscore podcast. Man of horrors See every time it's my accent, man of horror like scary movies. A lot of man of horrors anymore, man of horrors, and we're man of horrors, man of horrors, man of horrors, man of horrors, man of horrors.
Speaker 1:Man of horrors Mind.
Speaker 2:Super simple. You can follow me on Instagram at Afro Mortis. It's A-F-R-O-M-O-R-T-I-S. You can follow me over there on Twitch as well. Twitchtv slash Afro Mortis and my podcast. My team is, as the Culture Turns All one word, primarily on Instagram and YouTube.
Speaker 1:Bad, all right guys. So next topic next week is going to be Movember. We're going to be talking about all men health men, empowerment men, everything. So I'm trying to recruit a bunch of men up to eight men. So if anyone watching wants to be part of this live stream next week, let me know.
Speaker 2:I was going to tell you, I was going to tell you, I was going to tell you all the way. Give me a great guess.
Speaker 3:You need one of my friends to be pulling the strings yeah.