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From Poles To Policies

October 09, 2023 Jamar
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Join us as we navigate the intriguing narrative of Olivia Jo Nell, an actress with an extraordinary journey from flipping tortillas at a North Carolina Chipotle to shining under the Los Angeles spotlight. We traverse through her life's chapters, as she bares her soul about her struggles, the adversities she overcame and the unyielding resilience that fuelled her dreams. Olivia's story is not just about career transitions- it's about life transformations, self-respect, taking leaps of faith and possessing the tenacity to shift life's paradigms.

Olivia's narrative is also a financial odyssey, from hustling in strip clubs to booking commercials, and learning financial literacy from her parents. Our conversation takes a serious turn as we highlight the need to protect workers in all industries by discussing the idea of a stripper union. Olivia’s experience and insights are both enlightening and inspiring, a testament to her indomitable spirit.

The podcast reaches its zenith as we dive into modern dating's maze, exploring monogamy, infidelity, and relationship power dynamics. Olivia's reflections on her personal experiences help us unravel the challenges of finding partners and the impact of digital platforms on our communication styles. From adversity to self-acceptance, Olivia's journey is a testimony of courage, transformation, and a relentless spirit. Tune in to get inspired and discover how grit and determination can change lives.

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And we thank y...

Speaker 1:

Yo yo, yo yo to the meeting ghetto podcast with your host, jamar. How y'all doing tonight? Well, welcome to my meeting ghetto live. We got a special guest today.

Speaker 3:

Hi guys and introduce yourself.

Speaker 1:

And where are the? Where are you from?

Speaker 3:

Okay, hi, I'm Olivia Jo Nell and I am from North Carolina. What's in Salem, to be exact? I?

Speaker 1:

Won't lie. I took you for like a Florida girl. Why I Geal on says Florida. I don't know why.

Speaker 3:

Well, I mean, I've been to Miami recently.

Speaker 1:

So that's you. But like it, like that, it gives me like a vibe, like I'm up from a Florida vibe.

Speaker 3:

Oh, are you from Florida?

Speaker 1:

No, absolutely not from Philadelphia.

Speaker 3:

And how do you know what Florida girls are like?

Speaker 1:

I have some pressure for it. Okay, well, part like Miami area, like the city, this city, girls okay, Okay well, all the context of city girls, though you said what they will like, the city city girls like.

Speaker 3:

Now I mean they be in the street city girls okay, I Like the city girls, like I think it's a vibe.

Speaker 1:

So definitely hard vibe though.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Let me see real quick, let me get this thing popping. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna play this fire and try, we gonna, you're gonna hear it and it's medium, get a one teller to her conversation.

Speaker 4:

So once you come, hang with the gang, relatable topics from coming up Both to the nonsense that all come along with these days, from trust, and so, champion, we cover it all in what left us. So, what you come, grab you a seat from, also a pillow. You know that we medium ghetto and nothing can even compete.

Speaker 1:

Bam intro fire. Right, it's a vibe.

Speaker 3:

I like it I like it.

Speaker 1:

All right. So this episode is really about you, olivia, so I've been watching some. It wasn't even the hot seat thing. Just let you know. I think I've seen you on what's his name? Tanny's podcast. I've seen you on his his page. Oh, that's interesting view. Yes, good questions for you on it was. It was like it was like a couple months ago. You asked like some he was actually some questions on any point of view about certain things. I think it was just dating period. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

And then I seen the transition of like Some of your social media things. I think whenever, as you were at the podcast conference, whatever you were putting out, for some reason it was going to my IG, I was like I was our who's this girl. Let me add her. Ah See, you know. And then I seen like the transition and the spark of you going from, let's say, I, I guess taking advantage of your looks, to trying to go until, like, life insurance, and you saying, hey, I want to do a little something that's more like, I guess, like more self-respect Spectrum is that word.

Speaker 3:

Well, first of all, the reason I got into dancing was because I had moved to LA when I was 18, and so I moved to LA because I I wanted to become an actress, and so I'm coming from North Carolina. I didn't go to college. I have a high school diploma, but that's it. So I Transfer from Chipotle, I'm working at Chipotle at the time when I was in North Carolina before I moved to LA, and I get fired from Chipotle. So I'm out there searching for a A A job. I'm not finding one. I'm staying with some roommates.

Speaker 3:

At the time they kicked me out, so now I'm living in my car, and so I was just in my car one night it was midnight. I'm crying, I'm boohoo crying and I'm like I'm gonna have to go home. I'm gonna have to tell everybody like I didn't succeed. I didn't become an actress like and, and everyone's gonna laugh at me. I look up and there's a strip club. I'm not even lying and I'm like. It literally felt like at that time, like God was like oh, like here's money, you don't have to go home. I.

Speaker 3:

Talked to the manager. I'm like I've never done this before. He's like, okay, just get some lingerie, some hills. First song take, take your top off. Second song take your bottoms off. And last song just dance. And so I was like okay, and so I get up there, I do my thing, I come down and he's like, wow, that was the worst I've ever seen, but cute, so you'll make some money. And that was the job. And, like I said, I had applied at Starbucks, I had applied at grocery stores trader Joe's like trying to get a job, couldn't get a job, and that's what presented to me. And While I was doing that, that was the first time I had capital to actually Invest into an acting career. Hmm.

Speaker 3:

So that is when I started seeing success in my acting career, because I had the newest headshots, the like, best acting real. I could afford to. Like put nice clothes on and get into these like expensive rooms. I can afford to be in the room hmm, and so the whole time that I was dancing I was also building an acting career, so it wasn't just dancing, and that's not the only reason why I Kept my looks up or all that type of stuff.

Speaker 1:

I like that. I really appreciate that. Um, that's dope. So was the survival. You said y'all, if I'm gonna make it I gotta do this, and I like that. You had an edge enough to figure it out Easily, got back on that plane Right easily, went home Right. It'd have been like I've been kicked enough. It ain't working out here. It must be the environment. But you literally took charge. Like y'all know, this is we give, we can flip this, and I know you even probably thought we had. You were like thinking like what other people would think it like? What were some of the? Did you have any like thoughts if people heard you were like dancing at all from?

Speaker 3:

at all. Yeah, I Hated, I hit it the whole time. I hit it from my parents. I hit it in general because you know Like, growing up from where, from North Carolina, like people laugh at strippers, people were like. You know like they're the holds of the society, they're the jazzle bells of the society. You know what I mean. Yeah. So I didn't want to be that At all. I wanted to be an actress. So the whole time, like I just Portrayed online. You know, instagram's your highlight reel.

Speaker 3:

So I portrayed online like I was this, like Actress that had all these opportunities just because I was, you know, lucky, but for real, like it's very expensive to play that game hmm, especially living in living in LA where gas is seven dollars, like it's not cheap to play, so You're not able to like people who have have regular jobs, like maybe a waitress or a brochure, so you're not gonna be able to really compete With the girls who are dancing and and having sugar daddy's like there's no competition Financially with what you're able to do and what rooms you're able to get in.

Speaker 1:

I Think it's a smart move. I'm not judging If anybody, if anybody's talking about you, they jealous. You gotta think about it like our first. All you ain't doing that and crazy for money. You know, I'm saying like you ain't out here being crazy and they're doing that. They're doing what they're assuming you're doing, but for free. So who the smarter one?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean, you're saying like hey, you know, and I think, like talking about it more has has shown me that Really in my it was more in my head of what people think about me than the reality of what people are thinking.

Speaker 1:

It's really just shows you really are able to do what it takes, you know, I mean, which is really dope. Um, let me see, like, so how did it shape your perspective like Beauty wise, being a dancer? Like did it did? Like, how did it affect like oh my god, I can't talk today how did it affect your, your, how you look at yourself, beauty wise?

Speaker 3:

So I think it reaffirmed that my outside is beauty, beautiful. But I messed up my inside, my internal beauty, my internal beauty, because I think it it created a sense of false love Multiple times. So like I'm having these connections with my customers and like Learning that that's not real and that's a separation, and that they're really only with you for your looks, I think is mentally confusing. So that would be the answer to that question.

Speaker 1:

I see. Yeah, I think At the heart, one for everybody. So how young were you were doing this, when you, when you 20 20, Damn. Yeah, a lot of realizations at a young age at this point. So you probably like. So what are some? Have they said anything crazy to you before?

Speaker 3:

The customers.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know what a very respectful.

Speaker 3:

Of course, like you're in environments where people are drinking, doing drugs, going through deep, dark issues at home, so they're taking all these types of things out on you and I'm an impact. So like when people just feel sad, I can feel it. Hmm. So they're telling me about it, they're projecting on me, they're like Got, some guys will call you a hoe, some guy will, some guys will like Touch you inappropriately because they think they can take advantage of you Um, just all types of things.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, you do like the gem body guard.

Speaker 3:

No, well, I mean, I like I have people that naturally just look out for me, you know, I mean, and we have managers and there was like club guys, so there was people Protecting you for sure hmm, so like.

Speaker 1:

So let's say, let's say this. So now let's go back at one point. You lost your job, totally lost a couple jobs. Roommates kicked you out. Now you ball and strip of Money, right? So did you just get a? Like, you bought an apartment, everything, or yeah, I?

Speaker 3:

got the apartment pay for the new car, pay for my acting career, then started balling out from my acting career book national commercials for McDonald's, capital One, um Taco Bell shoe commercials like I was in music videos for Diddy Tyrese like I Like. Then that exploded. So then I could dance less. But I was still in love with the money and the money allowed me to travel. So I traveled some. I Completely enjoyed the experience. Do you feel guilty about?

Speaker 1:

that. Do you feel guilty about that?

Speaker 3:

Sometimes, why, Um.

Speaker 1:

You came back at one piece, I see.

Speaker 3:

I think it just like yes, but I think it just like scares me to think. You know what we grew up in this school system thinking it was going to be we go to college, get a job. I mean, go to college, graduate, get a job, have a family boom. And that's what I see my parents do. My mom is an entrepreneur, so I've seen her like still do you know something else? But at the same time, like she's still stuck to that kind of like movement and so watching me from like a third person view sometimes I'm just like wow, like we are living our ancestors wildest dreams. You know what I mean. Like no woman in my family has ever been able to make this type of like progress and money and able to say that she wants to sleep with multiple men and be honest about being a dancer, and like it's just an incredible time right now to be alive, honestly.

Speaker 1:

Are you just called?

Speaker 3:

in future I mean I have worked a lot to future. So I have a connection with you.

Speaker 1:

I'll be in the car blasting. Oh, but I got a question for you. I got a question for you.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

If anything, what kind of childhood do you think I had? I'm trying to see. I didn't think I would race. Let's see how precious you are.

Speaker 3:

It's giving like lower middle class, but you're really smart, so your parents are really smart, maybe educators, maybe engineers and that's all got free.

Speaker 1:

Um, no, I was. I was like the, definitely not that. So I grew up in a very poor, not for family, but like poor family, not middle class, though I think my mom was making like $12 an hour. I moved. My mother found out she was trafficking some stuff. My mom was a convict.

Speaker 3:

Like like drugs.

Speaker 1:

And she would, you know, give it to other people, mom, so.

Speaker 3:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

Oh, no one never would notice that. But yeah, that's what really interested me, because you came from like a, so I was just assuming I was like people probably thinks you came from like a, really Were you like a stripper, someone thinks you had a hard, really really, really, really, really, really rough childhood. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, I didn't. I grew up in a five bedroom, five bathroom house, north Carolina. We had tons of land. My mom made very good money. She owns her. She owned her own preschool. Now she has Airbnb properties. My step dad growing up was aircraft mechanics so he made very good money doing that. But the thing is like we come from Dave Ramsey background with financials, so it wasn't stocks, it wasn't like buy multiple real estate, it was like get you a home, save the money in the savings account and buy cheap stuff.

Speaker 1:

I see what you're saying. So y'all kind of like was you were there, y'all was storing for the next generation and investing for the next more long term.

Speaker 3:

You know you're holding the money and you know money is. I don't know if you know this, but I'm like super into financial literacy now. Money Money is a currency, so it's supposed to flow and so you don't just sit and hold it. You need to have it working for you. It needs to be an investment, investments. It needs to be growing. So, because they were not investing into things that, like we're creating money, and they kind of held it, it drained out with 2018, with inflation prices these days, like it's just like you can't hold the money these days because the way inflation is going, like it's just wiping out the money and so basically, like, even though we grew up with money, there was not enough for me to like find a career.

Speaker 1:

I see what you're saying.

Speaker 3:

So it really kind of was like all on me to figure it out at that point, and I just I grew up like in competitive cheerleading, so I just so happened to be good at dancing either way, and that's why it, just once I learned how to sexy dance, I knew how to like. I turned into a sexy. I had to learn my womanly ways and like all that type of stuff.

Speaker 1:

That's dope, though, like the lot of people frown about things. Dope like you just come in into yourself, yeah, and let me see, and you went into life insurance. Yeah, I think you went from sexy to life insurance. I was a wild transition, like what made.

Speaker 3:

So, oh my goodness, my entrepreneurship journey has been interesting. I have been watching podcasts after podcasts educational books, financial books, personal development books, like I went into it all, especially during COVID, and so I got into e-commerce, dropshipping, affiliate marketing, you know, like all the online gigs trying to find money, and they weren't successful. So I went back to the drawing board and I was like, okay, what's going to keep me out the strip club? I make $1,000 minimum a day in a club, so that's what I want to make in real life minimum.

Speaker 3:

And life insurance is something where you can easily make a thousand from your first policy because you get paid the whole first year premium. So if somebody has a policy that's $100 a month, you get paid 1200. So it's easy to like stack bread and I was like, okay, bet, but also it's impact and I knew it was something that I didn't have in my family, that I was curious about. So I was like I'm willing to learn this just for the sake of having it as a financial instrument. And now my parents have life insurance. They didn't have that before. So yeah, that's how it?

Speaker 1:

makes perfect sense and like so you want to stack that money like it was a, I guess, like a strip of it.

Speaker 3:

It's similar, it's not as fun. It's definitely not as fun. We're getting straight to the business, straight to what you're about to do when you die.

Speaker 1:

But it's all right, man, this is what we, your family, needs to need something when you go.

Speaker 3:

What are you going to do about it?

Speaker 1:

That's why a thousand dollars a day.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah. So you can easily make way more than that. You can sell policies that are 200 dollars a month. My mom's policy is 180 a month, so you know like you can make good money selling.

Speaker 1:

So let's say like 180 a month. Like how much? Like how would I make? Break that down again. Like how can I make like 10, 10 bands Give me some math here and life insurance, like how much. What my clientele guy looked like.

Speaker 3:

Okay. So I recommend selling to older people because older people realize their mortality. Younger people think they're going to live forever, so they're a little harder to sell, but they can definitely. So, like, my policy is 60 dollars a month. I have 200, 200,000, right, but I'm 27 when I got it, 26 when I got it, 26 when I got it, so it can be that price. My mom, on the other hand, hers is 180 and she gets 100,000. Right, but she's older, so she has whatever health issues she has. That, you know, obviously increased her mortality. Right.

Speaker 3:

So my suggestion would be sell to older people, so between like 50 to 80, and get them you know their basic burial policies. So like a basic burial 50,000 can be $120 at that point, you know, because I mean they're, they're 60. So like what they're going based off of is when your mom passed, when your dad passed. If your mom and dad passed at 60 from natural causes or whatever like, and you're getting your policy at 55.

Speaker 1:

I want to sound like you bully in these old people. Take the money. Huh. You bully in these old people like yo you bomb die at 60, you 55. I know it's good interest. It's interesting to do.

Speaker 3:

Company has to like bet on themselves. You know what I mean. Like they got it. They're the ones who are going to have to like push out this money the day you die, so they need to make sure that you're going to have put enough into it to make sense. So if your parents died at 16, you're 55, then it's like okay, they at least have them put in 200 months so that if they're getting 50,000, we at least had time to like invest in something that can make that money.

Speaker 1:

I see what you're saying because like, if it's a bigger chance of a bigger payment so you can actually get quality benefits, right. But you know. But someone says you mostly fasted. We got a good comment about you.

Speaker 3:

Thank you. Thank you If you want to. If you want to make $10,000 a month selling life insurance, you need to sell like eight policies eight policies eight people.

Speaker 1:

And that's a lot easier for me than scripting, so I might, might better for me. I don't know you have like, that's why.

Speaker 3:

I'm over here now. That's why I'm over here. So now my mission has been to become, has been to help strippers transform into entrepreneurship, and so I'll be offering that service soon where they can come to me and I can help guide them to where they need to go.

Speaker 1:

So you're going to have like a transformative stripper program.

Speaker 3:

Let's go.

Speaker 1:

What is that going to be name of the book? Get out the club.

Speaker 3:

Out the club. Like I wish I had this knowledge when I was like younger, because I was smart enough to do something else. I just I didn't know, like it had just came to me. It worked, it was making me money. So I'm just thinking, okay, well, this is what I'm going to do, so yeah, Get out.

Speaker 1:

So what's the first, what's the first chapter going to be like if you do a book?

Speaker 3:

Well, first, first I had to tell my my childhood story, where I come from, like yeah, so how I grew up, the lessons my mom instilled in me, and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

That's gonna be dope and like so in goal, where do you want? Let's say I'm a stripper never going to happen in my life, maybe my next life. Okay, I'm gonna try it out. Hopefully I remember to try it out. But let's say I'm making 100 K, by fact, 200 K of a year. So, you're gonna help me flip something. I don't have to go to the club, no more.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we need to figure out what you can do. I mean, like working at a strip club, you start every single day at zero. Working in entrepreneurship, you're starting every day at zero. Really, it's the same thing. You just have to apply those skills into something that you're passionate about that brings you purpose, because at the end of the day, you can enjoy stripping for however long you're enjoying that party scene, but it's never going to be a purpose for someone. It's just gonna be a way to make money and really you're wasting your time and like something my mentor said the other day shout out to David Shans was you're cheating on your dream. This time you're taking a dance. Yeah, it's cool. Like you're making that money, I'm happy for you, but you're cheating on your dream. My dream was to be in entertainment. My dream was to inspire people, motivate people, entertain people, maybe make people laugh. And I am not doing that, giving lot dances. So basically I'm training this time to make some money. I wonder why I'm not an A-list celebrity. I was cheating on my dream.

Speaker 1:

All the time you could have been making the quick money you could have been building.

Speaker 3:

Exactly.

Speaker 1:

And if you got this much drive to figure it out, think how much drive you would have had to figure out the act and see what you're getting there.

Speaker 3:

Right, it was the drugs, it was the alcohol. Just being in that space, that just was like causing just more and more distractions from what I should have been doing.

Speaker 1:

So Was it like? Were you ever tempted for more drugs and alcohol because of being around more drugs and alcohol?

Speaker 3:

Of course. Of course they're fun. They look fun too, Like when you're sober and you're watching people do these drugs and alcohol, like you're like, ooh, they're having a good time they ever do cocaine.

Speaker 1:

No, not you, but you ever do that.

Speaker 3:

No, no, no, no, no. I did get a DUI. I was a heavy drinker, it's heavy on the smoking and those two were my biggest thing. But I knew from watching me do those two things that I didn't even want to try cocaine, because I knew I would like it. It's a blast. It looks like a blast.

Speaker 1:

You like to type that run like 40 miles per hour in hells.

Speaker 3:

The girls did work better when they were on cocaine.

Speaker 1:

What they did it at work.

Speaker 3:

Of course.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I guess it's a performance enhancement drugs.

Speaker 3:

I guess, I guess.

Speaker 1:

They ain't got like a stripper unions.

Speaker 3:

No, I'm very passionate about that because we need one, but really like and that's what I wanted to do for a long time but really getting them out of there is what really needs to happen.

Speaker 1:

Oh, we got another comment, but check this out. Can you see the comments?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, she mentioned it's easier to sell insurance to someone older and on their way out. But what about selling insurance to someone like a police officer or a construction worker who works in high buildings? Would their policy be higher?

Speaker 1:

That's a great question.

Speaker 3:

That is a great question. Those are not questions on the application that they ask, so I'm going to assume no.

Speaker 1:

So you're the pro. Thank God you came or you answered all the life insurance questions from my guest and we had life insurance questions I got you, I got you. I appreciate it, but I'm an HR. Is there like a stripper union?

Speaker 3:

No, that's what I'm saying. That's what I wanted to create A stripper union Because I'm in the actors union. I am a SAG actress and right now we're protesting because we're trying to make more money as actors.

Speaker 1:

Wait, what's the SAG actor? I never heard of it before. You said SAG.

Speaker 3:

Yes, it's called SAG, the Screen Actors Guild, and so it was created way back when so that actors who are trained are able to get more money per day. So like the base rate for someone who's not SAG is like 150 a day. The base rate for SAG actors like 350 a day.

Speaker 1:

You're a SAG actor.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's dope. So, danny, you know y'all have a union, yeah, so what kind of training have you gotten acting?

Speaker 3:

Just being on set, just getting the opportunities, like for me. What got me a part of the union was I booked a role for Disney Channel on Gamers Guide when I was 19. And being on that show got me a part of the union. It gives you a letter but you have to pay 3,500 to get in.

Speaker 1:

You had 3,500?. I was a stripper.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, never mind. I told you you have to pay to play, to be in that business, and so it's like you can't do that thing, poor. You can't do that thing off of God. I'm sorry to say, like the situation in SAG is insane A lot. Don't even make royalties, some make pennies. Yeah, yeah, my royalties are pennies, like I was on Insecure, like that episode plays over and over and over again and I make pennies on the dollar.

Speaker 1:

So I think that's dope Everything I'm making. Yeah, exactly, I've never seen Insecure, but now I wanna know what episode you was on.

Speaker 3:

There she is. Yeah, Google my name. My episodes are on my IMDB.

Speaker 1:

Bet Wait, so you gotta. I wanted one of those, I need one.

Speaker 3:

I don't have an official profile because they charge $150 a year to have your picture and everything on there. Like for your official profile, you gotta pay to play yo.

Speaker 1:

I got a question for you. So it says how do you feel about only fans as an option for an adult? Entertainer should become an entrepreneur. I don't like. I'm making me jealous. My father sells some feet pics.

Speaker 3:

How does Olivia feel about only fans as an option for an adult entertainer to become an entrepreneur? I think that if that's what you want to do, like yes, but for me I know that there's like I guess it just depends on your morals Like what if that's what you wanna be in? For me, I think there's other things that are a lot more fulfilling than only fans. But if you're feeling like that's your purpose to take some sexy pictures for some men, like set it up, set it up Entrepreneur then I guess, they try, not you know how.

Speaker 1:

So I've been listening to GZ's new audiobook. You heard of it. It was Adversary for Sale, adversary for Sale, and it's this whole conversation is reminding me of it, because he talked about the transition from selling, from going legit, and I think a lot of people love that story and we all kind of try to get that story in, and he just talks about like he wasted at least I'm encountering the math, I'm nerding it up he least lost like a quarter million dollar before he got a record deal and made nothing from his music.

Speaker 3:

Right, right Right.

Speaker 1:

We got another one.

Speaker 3:

I think only fans is over saturated now and people really need to treat it as a business in order to get successful, create market advertising et cetera, Exactly Like. If you're going to do all that, do something where you can just like, like to me. I think the only way that makes sense is if you're already like partially a semi-celebrity and it's easier to capitalize off of. But to go through all that just to, it's up to you. Unless your body's super sexy, I don't know. Hey, I'm open. I'm open to it.

Speaker 1:

All right, let's digress and go into it. So so you said you, you embraced a little bit of feminism, right?

Speaker 3:

A little feminism.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, of course, so. So so, why, why, what? When did you embrace feminism? Why, like, what are some of the things that stuck up to you that made you say, yo, I can. I can embrace some of the feminist beliefs.

Speaker 3:

Well, okay, first of all, I don't know all of the feminist beliefs. I don't. I haven't did a deep dive study on it. But yeah, I want us to get equal pay so we can pay our bills. It's expensive for everybody out here.

Speaker 3:

So okay, yeah, I want us to be able to have rights to vote and you know all that type of stuff Drive, have a license, have our own bank accounts. Yes, I want the rights, rights to my own body for abortions. If I want to kill it, I want to kill it. You know, like sorry, I'm a little, I don't got no kids. I don't got no kids right now. So you know I'm not sensitive to them Like my mom. I'm not saying fuck them kids, but they cute.

Speaker 1:

But like you know, like I know what I know what kids are like.

Speaker 3:

My mom owned a preschool growing up, so they're even little things. I know what they be doing, oh God. Another question for you who are who, is this person from Twitch.

Speaker 1:

Well, this is a Twitch friend fan. Hey, twitch person. What did Olivia do for work during the pandemic? Did the pandemic make her more creative or did she just chill and held on to whatever paper she stacked? You stacking bills out here, yo, so right before the pandemic, okay, this was a week before the pandemic.

Speaker 3:

It was my birthday and I was partying and I got super not super drunk, but I was drunk and I crashed and totaled my car and I got a DUI. So I got a DUI. I got a DUI, so I went to jail and basically I had to find a lawyer. I didn't have to, but I wanted a lawyer, so I found what I thought was a good one for 5,000. So I had to go make the money to get the lawyer and so I decided to become a live streamer and I got really good on Beagle and twerked on live for about a year and a half.

Speaker 1:

You said Beagle.

Speaker 3:

Beagle.

Speaker 1:

Beagle. Hmm, never knew that was a site. I don't know how you find any sites, but I don't know any of them.

Speaker 3:

It just became popular because everyone was in the house, so everyone got. That's what we really got addicted to our phones. Everyone was just watching live streamers and this because the strip clubs closed. We twerked on live and it wasn't like a twerking app you could sit and talk. I was doing a little bit of this, doing a little bit of that. You know what?

Speaker 1:

I mean who bought the strip club to them?

Speaker 3:

I was in the house and I haven't twerked in a while, so you know we were drinking Hennessy at 8am. I was drinking Hennessy, like howling cars, like I have no cars, so the only thing that was across the street was the grocery stores and barns and nobles. And luckily I'm a reader. So that's when I learned about entrepreneurship and really transformed my life, cause I was like I can't be twerking in front of a phone for the rest of my life either. So I was like, okay, I got to find the out.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, that's a really good question. I was like I'm leaving and you were at the jail. I went to jail.

Speaker 3:

So how long though?

Speaker 1:

17 hours I was in the holding cell to be there. Okay, that is fair.

Speaker 3:

That's not really jail.

Speaker 1:

It. It taught me all I needed to know.

Speaker 3:

How did you feel not having your phone? It wasn't the phone that was the issue. It was the food. They actually spent you. It was not food, it is. What is it? I don't know, because I was drinking the milk and then it went down a liquid. When it came up, it was a solid, I'm not sure Exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1:

I remember my mom with the jail for a little bit when I was I was in the military with the Marines. I was like yo, your mom, and Jill. I was like for what? I'm not going to say what on live, but um, and she lost like 80 pounds from there. She came home so small because Jill was that bad.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you don't eat it.

Speaker 1:

I was like damn.

Speaker 3:

I don't drink anymore. Um no, no, you don't drink at all. No.

Speaker 1:

How's that feel?

Speaker 3:

It's amazing. I bet you that like so much clarity. So much I don't make stupid decisions anymore. I don't drunk text, drunk call. You know what I mean Just stupid. You know what?

Speaker 1:

I mean. So you were a drunk taxidermy.

Speaker 3:

Isn't everybody? Oh my gosh, I'm emotional, I'm a Pisces. So, yeah, I be in my feelings, I'm not going to get in trouble, I'm going to be in my thoughts and I'm like when you did that, like that really hurt me, oh you be guilt tripping people to Pisces. Do that, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the toxic?

Speaker 1:

trait Like. What can I say? I'd be like yo, I'm sorry to answer the phone for 30 seconds here. You never answered the phone, we just dropped you off, but, um, let me see. Okay, that's a question. So how did you conquer your self-esteem and your self acceptance?

Speaker 3:

Um, by stop stopping feeling sorry for myself and realizing that no one was going to save me. It's really the saddest part of it, of it all really Like no one's coming to save me. That was your.

Speaker 1:

It was like face down and a pit of your own throes, and you just was like, and yeah, nobody ain't going to come here to get me, nobody's coming to get you.

Speaker 3:

No man, I'm thinking like okay, for sure I'm Cinderella, there's going to be a man that meets me at a ball in LA. I'm a half. Some guy Slippers on my little stripper heels and he's going to want to save me and take me out of there. No, man came to save me to take me out of there. If he did, it wasn't I would have rather stayed in there. I could have stayed at the club. I could have stayed at the ball.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like just leave me here, I think due to two early 2000s rap.

Speaker 3:

nobody's going to save, Nope.

Speaker 1:

We had a whole decade of rap music. Don't save any. Don't save these girls. I'm just saying like it might have influenced how we look at things here and in true black men.

Speaker 3:

black men do not want to save us, like at all. They just, they just, they'd be like we're strong black women. We're strong black women. We're strong black women. We're strong black women. We're strong black women. They'd be like we're strong black women. We can do anything and I know we are but no saving.

Speaker 1:

Hold on, hold on. It's not just black men, it's other men too.

Speaker 3:

I can't say that because when I date other men I'm just like, wow, like they do kind of want to save me a little bit, they do help me. Like my bills go from like feeling like this to like you know I sit up straighter, you know I can relax, breathe easier.

Speaker 1:

So you saying they allow you, they lighten the load on you?

Speaker 3:

Yes, and they want to and they want to. That's the beautiful part. Like if you ask a black man too, I feel like he's like, but she's trying to use me, like she's trying to, she's going to play me, she going, she got two hands, like. I just feel like they find every excuse of why we can, instead of just wanting to.

Speaker 1:

So you want them to just cash out for you first birthday.

Speaker 3:

I don't hate it, I don't, I don't, I don't hate it, I don't. And I say that because it's like when, okay, we're in a social media age and we're all getting a little bit more attention than we're supposed to, right? So obviously I'm getting a lot of attention, especially the more that I get online and I interact and I participate, and so it's like the competition is heavier. So to stand out, you kind of do need to send a cash out, just your. Hey, beautiful. There's a list of those Like people are coming in my DMs like wanting to have full on. How's your day? Where are you from? What do you do in my DM? And I'm like no offense, but why? You have 300 followers, itchers, why?

Speaker 1:

So you saying you want the, so you want a guy with a lot of followers.

Speaker 3:

No, it's not even about that. It's just credibility nowadays.

Speaker 1:

I see what you're saying, like on IG credibility.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, right, like there's going to be a lot of people that start coming into your DMs the more you grow, as well, right? And so you got to start sifting through, you know, and another, hey, hey, beautiful, hey, big head is not going to.

Speaker 1:

I want to lie a little self-conscious. When people call me big head, because my head kind of big, I think I have to this. I be worried, but I get what you're saying, though like it's because it is logically. It is about competition, right, you want the best odds to be happy, as most happy as possible, but if someone's not shown that initially and someone else is, then what's going on? Right, I'm trying to be a big time player in the love and you kind of like you kind of minor league right now just saying, hey, what's up, big head.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 1:

And I get it like the more follows you get, I guess, the more credibility you get.

Speaker 3:

More people are trying to impress and so now it becomes like it's hard to get to know the little guy, because some people are starting with cash apps that's going to win you cash at me, you cash at me, like you cash at me a hundred dollars and then send me your number like you're going to get a call first, you know. So, yeah, it makes the dating hard, because it does make it a little bit more superficial.

Speaker 1:

But I think I just was talking about this too. On my last my solo, I just literally just premiered Let me just premiere this thing because I had a bunch of episodes and it's going to be like six months for you to hear premier. But it was talking about like I don't really stick date and standards. Now, sometimes we get stuck on the material things, but this is all from this generation of what we're seeing online, we brainwashed.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we are.

Speaker 1:

But I think for me like it's like and we're addicted to it too, Like now.

Speaker 3:

It's like if you try to take away my Amazon and you try to take away my DoorDash For in the name of love, I don't know about that- Amazon.

Speaker 1:

You got all the packages. That's where you got that plan from.

Speaker 3:

No.

Speaker 1:

Target.

Speaker 3:

No, someone gave it to me.

Speaker 1:

Oh see in the competition.

Speaker 3:

It's competition out here for real.

Speaker 1:

You know I can get flowers from like a floors for like 35 like that and I was buying flowers of a 1,800 flowers and paying like 1,850 for them. I never knew that. So I was like losing money and I my first time going to a florist was like last year. I was pissed. I was like so all these years I've been over paying for flowers.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And sending them to the people jobs.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, really you can go to Walmart, find something nice like this, get a base all for like 15 really Even cheaper than a florist. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm over here. I need a professional. No.

Speaker 3:

No.

Speaker 1:

So, like we dang, you answered a lot of my questions here, man, you answered a lot of my this is really good questions, good so damn. You really answered most of my questions here, all right, so let's, let's lastly hit this right. So you described what did she say again.

Speaker 3:

I blame the internet. The age of a queries is here and it affects of COVID, assured anymore. Yeah, it's just so weird, like dating, dating is so hard.

Speaker 1:

It felt like a job I want. I want lives. A job now and I'm new young but I'm in my 30s. They then 30s is like the worst thing you ever do in your life. Everyone got like 10, a decade of trauma. Most of them, none of them, is going to therapy. You like, you need therapy. A lot of baggage. Everybody got kids and we don't got kids Everybody. Well, you can set daddy, my kids.

Speaker 3:

I'm like no, what I'm realizing is just just at some point you have to choose one, choose one, choose a bag, a baggage. It's like a business, all of the businesses. When you first become, they call it a one, one, one, one, one, one, a one entrepreneur, one a one, a. You want to do every single business because you have like shiny objects in Jerome and you want to try this one. You want to try this one. You want to make 100,000 a month. This one, you'll make 50,000 in a month. So try that one, try this. And that's how dating is.

Speaker 1:

So I got to be like damn. I know she got like nine kids, but she got a good heart.

Speaker 3:

No, you just need to decide what's important and what's not. Like, get down to the root of what's important and what's not. What do you really want? I think a lot of people don't know what they want in a relationship and that's why they they just kind of go lollygagging and finding people and then falling in love by based off of good sex and just good faces and you know what I mean Like shallow stuff. They bought me this or they took me to this restaurant, but people aren't really sitting down and assessing who they need in their life to really elevate them to the next level.

Speaker 1:

And that's what I need and that's what I want. I want someone that can elevate me. I'm not going to settle for a distraction. So I do that, like, if you're an entrepreneur, you know you got great things to do. Like, let's say, I'm in school, full-time job, business, going, podcast, whatsoever. I'm about to write a book in like 30 days. Right, my writing coach is on my ass. Hope she's not watching this. She doesn't realize I didn't even like write this. I didn't even break down the book yet. I do what I. There is that she can play a bro.

Speaker 3:

Get it done.

Speaker 1:

Right, but you're right, like they're not like adding to those things or adding value. Like the hundred dollars is adding value to you. You know what I mean. Like that you can do something with that $100. Now you're like you're, you know, you're financially educated and that's what I think like for guys like me, if I'm getting a bunch of money I don't want to like we look at like women's investments. If I'm giving you money, it's not like I'm like oh, I wonder where it's gone, but hopefully you're investing in something that you know, like in like last longer. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

And that's why, like, once you start knowing what you want from from a relationship, you can start better positioning yourself in the places you need to be to attract that person. So once I realized, like, what kind of man I needed, I was better able to go. Okay, if I go to this conference that's going to teach you how to build, grow and invest in your hotel, what kind of man am I going to meet? A man who wants to build, grow and invest in hotels.

Speaker 1:

I'm just saying, like you got to go to the water and holes and the and what they would call the equal systems and the word. Where are they feeding themselves?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah. And if you're into anime, you just want somebody who's going to geek out with you on stuff like that. Go to an anime, put yourself in those places. You know what I mean. So figure out what's important to you and start finding your tribe in those places.

Speaker 1:

You just say anime. What's with the anime?

Speaker 3:

But I don't want a guy who's in the anime.

Speaker 1:

really, I know why. Now that's interesting. No offense, but like no, you got to say why, what's up? You got to say something offensive. We say no offense, you've got to end it with something that's offensive.

Speaker 3:

No offense, but like I, okay. So here's something I think about is late night, right, we embed, we cuddle him and I got to watch what you want to watch, and if it's an anime, I'm like you hate it on them.

Speaker 1:

I like anime.

Speaker 3:

And there's certain ones, there's a couple of good ones, so it's not complete shade to anime. I just rather not meet someone who's super into anime.

Speaker 1:

Like they like saying quotes every five seconds.

Speaker 3:

That person speaking in Japanese they got the action figures all over their house.

Speaker 1:

They pull up and they speaking in Japanese to you.

Speaker 3:

I'm not your girl, I'm not. It ain't me, yeah, it ain't me.

Speaker 1:

She said this is a safe place, olivia.

Speaker 3:

Thank you. You get beat up so much online these days you get scared to talk. You're like, oh my gosh, like no offense, anybody who's Into that?

Speaker 1:

You know what's with. I don't know. This is you. You're becoming like this, like we're online and beat up. I like the chaos, so I will beat you up more. I've been like I've came from such like environment. Or if you don't, if you're not eating people, they'll eat you. So, like my fight or flight mechanism comes out and I will eat your lunch. I'm ready to. You know, just eat your whole lunch. We need people like you. I want to be like yo. Where you wet. We could do this at first. We can have come on the episode.

Speaker 3:

I'll be like people like you, because me I'm not responding.

Speaker 1:

I would like to. I'll be like yo. I've got some time too. I'm like I can map out our off day. What's up? I'm not saying shit. 27.

Speaker 3:

Cuz I always go to the profile and it'd be one picture, just a profile picture. I'm like you are. Yo, you're spamming at this point, oh.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that's a mean. What did she say?

Speaker 3:

Oh, Wow your cyber bully.

Speaker 1:

No, they started. But they trying to, you know, flip the script. But um, no, I remember high school. She knows with me from high school. I got verbal abuse charges cause like burning on somebody, and Then they took me to court cuz I was ripping on that bed. Yeah no, I'm a nice.

Speaker 3:

I'm a nice person, though. First of all, shalonda is gorgeous, am I saying? Shalonda Shiana. Shiana. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Gorgeous darling but her boyfriend be watching Reviews on lips. I'm never going back to the house again. I went in the house to see how they were doing for something. My man over there watching two white guys try out lips and I'm he white too. So I'm like, nah, I gotta walk out here. I don't trust this shit.

Speaker 3:

Dang.

Speaker 1:

What would you say?

Speaker 3:

I remember I cussed out that one guy Call a duty. It goes down.

Speaker 1:

Oh, thank you so much. We got one minutes here and we make fun of each other, so we're kind of social circle.

Speaker 3:

That's love, that is love.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, um, but you said back today though, so you would rather have you said you're not into monogamy. I'm gonna squash before we in this, okay.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so here's what I learned today. There's somebody named Freud Freud, I think. I don't know if it's Sigmund, for I don't know which Freud. This is right, mm-hmm. He talks about sexuality and how we're always going to have a battle of how we feel Like in our subconscious versus what our conscious feelings are. Well, basically, what we can and what we cannot do to keep civilization, you know, functioning, and I think monogamy is one of those things that keeps civilization Civilized right, because think about if we just didn't have that rule.

Speaker 3:

No, by husbands, we see think about If that was not a thing and no one, that wasn't even in our mind like wipe it clean. That's not even something we haven't even thought about yet.

Speaker 1:

I Mean you don't think it would be any like cross reading or genetic.

Speaker 3:

I don't think nobody would be monogamous, and it's not until somebody says you have to do it or you're married now. That's what you're supposed to do, that's what God wants you to do, so the Bible wants you to do that. People are like, okay, that's what we're supposed to do, but I just don't think it's something that's innate in us. I do think that when you have intercourse with someone, you have a bond with them, right, but I Don't think it's a forever bond.

Speaker 1:

So I think Our scientifically, I think it's like a chemical release that you get when you do it. But I, I partially agree with it, with you, right, because if we were just like strictly monogamy, I'll date you and I wouldn't have, I wouldn't be like yo, no, no other people. You know. I mean, right, we'd be like damn, that's wrong, right, and you grow right there. But at the same time, I think it's you need to be okay with those thoughts, because your guy is gonna still check out Other girls and then your girl will still check out other guys. I think it's okay to admire. You know what I mean. But you both have that contract, I guess contract with each other and that expectation with each other. That is the monogamous relationship and you break that expectation and that's the problem. But people are like yo, this, we can do this, we can do this that you did.

Speaker 3:

He also says that he believes that all relationships start out sexual. Like when you connect with anyone, it's sexual in nature, like the people you feel most drawn to. Do you believe that is a fact? Yes, I know that I know the people who I feel most connected to. Things be tingling and I'll be like, oh, this don't even feel right Because I know that's what we feel in this for you. But like, and I'm realizing, like that's just what brings me to them, that's what keeps our relationship kind of spicy. And these are my platonic friendships. Even my girlfriend ships and I'm not gay like something about her, something about her, her Intelligence, the way she moves, draw, drew me into her and and turns me on you know it's weird.

Speaker 1:

I don't, I was, I thought I was be. I'm like been single for like five years, love in relation for almost ten years. You know I'm saying Long. You just like leave me, be alone. You know, let me, let me relax. It's nice. I get the gold, get the nice tickets. It's paid double the price. Well, taking somebody so nice, let me think. But I Kind of I agree on that. But like, the people that I'm attracted to are kind of like I guess you could say like more, like they'll be labeled outcast, they will be labeled different, they'll love like yo, they have an edge. I like different people. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I like people who are like. I was like if I said, yo, what kind of person is Olivia? And I would just like, oh, she's she the type of person? She's just a little bit, you know. I mean like you can't really pitch you in a box. I like the people. You can't hit in the box right and those, I guess that the tangle comes from that type of person exactly.

Speaker 3:

But there's a tingle there. Yeah, it's my whole point, and For me it's just like working in a strip club. I've seen a lot of men cheat. I've seen a lot of married men cheat A lot of married men cheat. Okay so, and I know there's ashley madison. Do you know about that website? It's for men to cheat. Go check it out. 98 point something. Million users Dude.

Speaker 1:

I'm about to go on there, act like I'm cheating, the whole time saying ashley madisoncom.

Speaker 3:

Yo can I cheat, or cheaters to cheat.

Speaker 1:

Dude, can I cheat if I'm single, act like I got a girl.

Speaker 3:

The my whole point. People are out here cheating and, instead of just being honest about it, like they want to pretend, like they're like Monocomus. I don't get it. I don't, I don't get it.

Speaker 1:

I think it's a when you're fraught about it. That's when it's bad.

Speaker 3:

But that's what I'm saying. A lot of people beef, beef rods beef wrong.

Speaker 1:

Well, I'm sorry. I'm like I don't know why finance is getting this expensive to cheat and it's a lot of energy. So I gotta tell you, I gotta lie to you, I gotta I gotta figure out schedules where you're not gonna be around and distracted. I'm gonna drip clubs from now. You know I'm giving money to other people. Now I'm going out with others, y'all it's. But that's a lot. But when made it first, I mean I got text extra people I hardly text you, and now I got text I'm introvert. So it'll be a lot for me to do that.

Speaker 3:

That's not what cheating is cheating. Cheating is you enjoying another person, so it's not stressful, it's exciting.

Speaker 1:

Oh damn so am I my? Monogamous if I don't really enjoy that at all.

Speaker 3:

I Think that, like I said, everyone has this time when you're with someone where, when you guys are having sex, you're really connected. But I think there is going to be a time where Somebody's not wanting to have sex that much anymore. Um, someone may gain a lot of weight. Someone may become really combative, depressed. There's so many things that happen in our lives, right, that if that sexual component is taken away and she's not even Touching you, she don't want to touch you, no more, she don't want to do that. But you guys have two kids and you know, if you were to even say that you gonna have sex with someone else because you ain't been pleasured in a long time, that she's taking the kids. When you meet someone that starts looking at you with desire, that sees your, your masculine side, like you're gonna be, like, wow, like I want her because she sees me, this lady don't even appreciate you. And these are the situations that I'm talking about, that I hear from men all the time. I think they're gonna be there because they're gonna be there.

Speaker 1:

And that's the problem, right, and that's my point is like, I think, a lot of people, that happens to a lot more of us than we Acknowledge and because of that it's causing A lot of people that we don't really know.

Speaker 3:

I don't know what's going on, but I think it's a lot of people that we don't really know and because of that it's causing it's causing cheating. He says ford was criticized for being over sexual in his studies. But who's to say that he Didn't retain any truths, especially depending on the people On an individual level? Yeah, I, I think too, like when you are being sexual A lot, you start wanting it more.

Speaker 1:

Or that's a good one, because that's how I felt. I feel like once it starts you like, it's like a momentum thing.

Speaker 3:

It.

Speaker 1:

It don't shut off and you think you you can quench it, but you never really do so when that person hit the hard, stop you out there. You're looking a little frisky at them all. I'm just saying what did my man from uh put say?

Speaker 3:

If she doesn't want to have sex. I will order one of those dolls from team with Tugofilm.

Speaker 1:

Can't make this shit up.

Speaker 3:

You know, and a lot of men do that for a long time, long time, and it takes one little Young, sexy shawty To see you in your glory and you start and I just seen it so many times that I'm like you, you, you can't convince me that monogamy is a complete real thing like that. Most people are doing it. You can't convince me so Do you think?

Speaker 1:

Do you think it's because somebody wants there that one person to be? Everyone to them, everything to them?

Speaker 3:

Yes, and why, and, and, and I don't know why they even think that that's a possibility either.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, I don't think it's he. I've like I was a red flag for me. A girl no friends. If you ain't got no friends, nobody like you. They gotta be something. There's a reason nobody likes you. Yeah, I've got to figure it out. I'm just saying they all hate it on you. That's crazy.

Speaker 3:

That's why genuine communication, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. I just feel like, even even, no matter how much good communication you will have, there's no saying that you won't meet somebody else who just captures you.

Speaker 1:

I see what you're saying.

Speaker 3:

And it's not something that you can ever predict or be in control over. If it happens, it happens.

Speaker 1:

I think everyone like there's different types of love. You know what I mean. Some people it's like it's like a slow burn, like at first you don't know you like them, but it's like the whole best friend thing. You start out as just friends and then it's just, you get that attachment. And then some people you you hop for right away Like little Caesar pizza. You know what I mean, I'm ready. And then it's just some people like you just don't like romantically. Like I know I got a couple of friends that are girls, like I was spent all the time with them but I just sexually I'm just not attracted whatsoever. Right, everybody's like they some bad jobs, like it's just, I don't know, it's just something not there In my eyes. They're my friends. You know what I? Mean Right.

Speaker 1:

We can go out and get drinks, we can do whatever.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and I, and I believe that I'm just saying like, how do you, how does anyone say for the rest of my life, I promise not to cheat on you when you have sexual thoughts? The moment you wake up, literally the moment you wake up, your private part is on 10. That's because I think testosterone is, it's like I'm just saying that's a sign, though, like you think, one person is always gonna be able to fulfill something. That's on 10 every morning.

Speaker 1:

I mean, yeah, they could be. You gotta like make a routine, not your routine, I don't that's a hard work for it, you gotta make an effort. I believe like the relationships are built there. Ain't there, you don't have a relationship. You build a relationship and if you know like, all right, like you say, you know your weaknesses, right, you're yourself aware.

Speaker 1:

If you know your weakness, if I'm a cheater and I know I wanna cheat I'm not gonna take, I'm not gonna put myself in a situation where I'm in with alcohol alone, I any impaired thoughts alone. I'm not gonna be with another woman, you know what I mean. I'm not gonna be like a crying cheat. I'm not gonna put myself in this situation. Like for me, I think, like one of the best, the worst things you can do is get in the setting the make a bad decision, right. I remember so I had like at one time like a lot of people got jealous of other, like I had like a lot of friends that are girls, cause I grew up like it's like none of my girls around here, right, and I would not even be in a closed room with another little girl if wouldn't, and my girl would always come with me wherever I went if it involves another girl, if that makes sense. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Just so we can like stop like that, even that thought and insecurity Cause I know that thought will always come. She's not wrong for having that thought. You know what I?

Speaker 3:

mean yeah, and I'm just saying like to me it's, that's logical when you live in places like Huntsville, alabama. But when you live in places like Los Angeles, california, atlanta, georgia, dallas, texas, houston, texas, like big Metroplexes, like no, you know what I mean when you're on the go and you're traveling from city to city, your girl's not gonna be there every time.

Speaker 1:

That's true, I've seen it.

Speaker 3:

And like, literally, I like to date men that have higher status because that means they have a little bit more bread, they're doing a little bit more impactful things, they're just naturally more attractive, right? But they naturally have women that are always not. You can go, I'm not gonna put myself in that situation. They're women following you, literally online and in person. There are people following you, finding you. I just I don't see it. I don't see it.

Speaker 1:

So you're saying that my man getting all the holes? He ain't saying no to all the holes.

Speaker 3:

For how long? For how long? For your whole 30, 40, 50, 60 year marriage. Okay, I would love to see it, I really would.

Speaker 1:

I could be a good TV show special. So you get all the holes, but you're right. So once a man gets in, that 10%, that 90% of women are available. You know what I mean. Yes, the good, the bad, the ugly wants you. Yeah, you get them weird DMs. I wish I could show you my Facebook DMs. I got one, yo. So one thing too is like I think, for those men who make a lot of income, one big thing what is it? No matter how strong your relationship is, the Drake DM. You, man or woman, you're going to fly to Toronto. Is that true?

Speaker 3:

He said man or woman. Yo, people are going On the day of. This is social media, this is city life, like good luck. But you can still believe in it if you want to, and I pray to God that you attract someone I really do Like from the bottom of my heart. I want anyone who wants that to find someone who does that. I'm just not unrealistic at this point, you know that's true, but I think that will come down to the individual if they feel detached enough in their relationship to leave physically or mentally. Like Mara said, people do take their partners for granted. They could be, there could be some other enticing people, but how committed are you to your partner? All hypothetical. I'm personally monogamous, but definitely respect the opinions and arguments pertaining to the support of those who aren't. Well, thank you, thank you, thank you. I would say to that. I would say to that, yeah, I don't have anything to say to that.

Speaker 1:

No, I think your viewpoint is great too, to be honest. Yeah, I remember at one point after a long relationship, I thought I was more on a non-monogamous side. I don't lie, I don't know, I think it was. I don't know if it was trauma, but I was just like, why have one when you can have nine, or what was that you're on? You're on a smart one to have one who can have nine.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yes, yes, no. I'm definitely not saying that, though For me. For me personally, I am definitely more on the monogamous side as well. What. I'm saying is, I just know temptation?

Speaker 1:

Temptation is a bitch. I will be quite honest.

Speaker 3:

I just know it's always going to be there. I know we got a lot of Instagram. I know Ruby Rose. I got on my Instagram today and was like my tingle looking at her for her birthday pictures. I was like now I know if I got a man and he popped up Like she just popped up on my phone and she slid in MDMs. I'm not sure. I don't know I got to understand.

Speaker 1:

I love you but at the same time, being on IG has trained me to know that there's a lot of beautiful people and a lot of people pay to look that beautiful. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

It don't matter, it's still beauty, it's still beautiful. And way to one once. You is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

All I got to say is you got to train yourself. Y'all look at the IG joins and get like the mental monk training.

Speaker 3:

I would say to make sure that the person, if you want someone monogamous, make sure they've been practicing getting prepared for monogamy. They really shouldn't be coming from. I'm having sex with a whole bunch of people to monogamy. That's not going to work.

Speaker 1:

You were right about.

Speaker 3:

You're absolutely right about that If they're not in church practicing celibacy like you're playing yourself and I can promise you that.

Speaker 1:

I believe it, because as soon as that one, that actual monogamous person, gives you a little kickback on it, you're going to be like well, I'm going to go talk to somebody, because the train does the do do it for you. You know what I mean. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 3:

There's a stage of celibacy you need to have before you're even I would even say you're ready for monogamy.

Speaker 1:

Are you celibate?

Speaker 3:

No.

Speaker 1:

Hey, I was going to ask you questions and they're mine.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to say, yes, I am for now, but I know I'm open to not being so.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I haven't, but I so Ruby Rose was like yo.

Speaker 3:

If she's slid in the DMs like can we clip this part? Ruby, if you like what you see, come through.

Speaker 1:

It's fair game. You say Nobody going to get mad at you. So, last but not least, we're going to talk about your podcast. Just talk a little, give a brief intro where so people can follow you, where to follow you, at where to get some more.

Speaker 3:

Have your honesty.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yes, ok, so my podcast is called Spotless Minds. We talk about all things beauty, health and wealth for women. I'm now passionate about interviewing ex dancers, ex nightlife bottle bottle girls, strippers, sugar babies, who have transformed their lives into entrepreneurship. So episodes moving forward including the one coming out tomorrow at 2 PM is a girl who was a dancer at Blue Flame for seven years and now sells life insurance as well. So we talked about gaked out on life insurance again. So we answered even more questions about IULs and infinite banking, but also we got to talk about our relatability in the dancing space. So if you're into that thing, follow me on YouTube, instagram, linkedin, facebook, all the above at Olivia Jonel, that's J-O-N-A-L-E and it was a pleasure hanging out with you. Shalonda, the username, that was like G-S-X something and all of that.

Speaker 1:

I don't know who that is, but you know.

Speaker 3:

It was fun. I enjoyed talking to you guys. You guys were fun. All right. And you too, Jemai. Thank you for having me on your platform.

Speaker 1:

No problem Next time. I want to make sure we know the time for it. I was like damn she does. This is the first time I ever been flaked on. To be honest, I was like damn. This is the first time she flaked on me in my life. I don't know how to trust people again.

Speaker 1:

I was going to no, no, no. Now I'm joking about it. I thought about it. I was like it's probably another time zone. If it was like three hours out of that, I wouldn't talk to her later. I was like I was told it was like a three hour difference. That's all I was hoping.

Speaker 3:

No, no, no, no, no that next time we'll definitely be more prepared, for sure.

Speaker 1:

No problem. Is Olivia on Spotify Because she has a?

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

What is it called Spotless Minds?

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Spotless Mind Podcast or Spotless Mind.

Speaker 3:

Just type in Spotless Minds.

Speaker 1:

All right, yep, she's going to follow you. Well guys, I appreciate you watching. Say medium ghetto, don't go full ghetto. Have peace in the streets. Don't do anything crazy. I wouldn't do, but peace out. Bye, bye.

Transitioning From Dancing to Acting
Financial Journey
Book Ideas, Stripper Unions, and OnlyFans
Adversity, OnlyFans, and Self-Acceptance
Challenges of Dating and Finding Partners
Monogamy and Cheating
Discussion About Time, Trust, and Podcast